I usually get the pop-up for our Azure apps. The first screenshot is me logging into the Azure portal with Authenticator 6.7.2. The 2nd screenshot is me logging into the Azure portal with Authenticator 6.7.3. Fortunately, I have iMazing installed so I can go back and forth between the Authenticator versions easily enough.
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Microsoft Authenticator Discontinues Apple Watch App
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As others have mentioned, it's not just about a word processor, spreadsheet, etc. It's about integration with other services. There is some pretty powerful capabilities that exist in the O365 world that are used regularly by businesses.
Just as one example - I have a Dynamics 365 system that I support that ties in with Office 365. It has a direct tie-in with Excel that my users use to mass-export pricing on thousands of inventory items, update those using a simple formula, and then publish those directly back into the ERP system directly from within the spreadsheet (ie, no having to re-format and save as a .CSV file and then running a secondary import tool - it is one button-push from within the spreadsheet itself). They use this same functionality to create new SKUs as well.
We have a separate financial reporting and budgeting tool that works with Excel where we have various department managers update their expense forecasts throughout the year. It authenticates with their normal Active Directory logins and gives them access only to their own department finances. They can update their budget, and it is published directly into the ERP, where they can continue to track their department actuals against their budget via a web interface. That same web interface also allows upper management to run their own financial reports.
Then, of course, there is PowerBI. If there was no other service offered by O365, PowerBI alone would make the O365 subscription worth it. It is an incredibly powerful dashboarding and reporting tool in itself, and it ties in with all sorts of systems (again, including our ERP and Payroll systems).
Thunderbird and Outlook aren't really even the same type of program, outside of them both handling e-mail to some extent. For personal e-mail use, yes, Thunderbird is probably simpler to use. Once you get into Calendar sharing, tie-ins with CRM systems or Teams, message archiving, meeting management - there's no comparison at all.
You're nit-picking things here that are generally personal preference. Saves in Excel are pretty quick, so you can always just click the save button before closing if you're not sure if you changed something. Even better - if you're working on a document that's saved in OneDrive or SharePoint, it is auto-saved continuously with versioning anyway, so you don't need to even click "Save" anymore. And the undo stack works the way it does for a reason - many people tend to link data between sheets in Excel, so undoing between sheets makes sense.
Libre and OpenOffice are good products too, but they are pretty limited to fairly basic work. For handling my home budget, Libre would probably work fine (except that I already have access to Excel, so that's what I use). It is when you get into very advanced features (like external data reporting, Slicing/Pivoting, add-ins) that Excel pulls way, way ahead of everything else out there.
MS Office has evolved over 3 decades with tens of thousands of developers. Thinking that a government agency could replicate that effort easily and then "use them for free forever" (implying that maintenance would be non-existent) is pretty silly.
It's a sad day when any half-way useful app gets taken off. Glad I never needed to sign into my Microsoft Account from my watch.
For what it’s worth (may not go anywhere) - Created a change.org petition to bring the functionality back:
change.org/FixAuthenticatorAppleWatch
change.org/FixAuthenticatorAppleWatch
That workaround may only work for so long though. They’ll likely force users to upgrade the app for it to keep working.
I did hear something about that. I'll only upgrade when I'm forced. I really hope Microsoft relents and re-releases the Watch app.
but you can setup 3rd party authenticator apps with Azure/o365...
I think at some point this year or next, a lot of major companies will be moving towards Passkey Support as default, doing away with the need for cycling an MFA number. Maybe they see having the number shown on an Apple Watch as being a security risk? And then with another option being the default option at some point soon, why even provide anything on the watch at all other than the need to approve a request.
What does that even mean? I'm commenting about my experience in my industry, and it's true. You rarely see windows based machines on set. Never at DIT. Rarely in the production offices. and only once in the last 30 years in the business did I see someone use one for video playback in a multi monitor setup for a scene and it did not go well. Even the VFX guys who come by to advise VFX shots typically use Macs. I'm not saying there aren't other industries that use other operating systems, Just what is overwhelmingly used in mine. Take your OS war trolling somewhere else.
Microsoft...you zuigt(NL), I had to use the authenticator app because they, MS, used a different way to authenticate, I already have an authenticator app, from Ubiquiti, it always worked, until ms managed to use a different way.
Microsoft=rubbish.
Microsoft=rubbish.
I guess everyone's needs and preferences are different, cause as far as mine go, LibreOffice and Thunderbird are utter garbage for corporate spreadsheets and e-mail/calendar/contacts. For personal use, sure, they're good enough (though I'd much rather use Numbers), but O365 simply does way better integration.
Having said that, as far as TOTP goes? I briefly used Google Authenticator, but its design decision not to sync across devices is bad. I moved to Authy and have been happy with that for years, but now I'm moving to iCloud Keychain, because it integrates better. I don't see what I would need Microsoft for in this space. My only two complaints with iCloud Keychain are lack of team sharing and, compared to 1Password, lack of multiple vaults (Keychain itself has this, but iCloud Keychain apparently does not), to separate personal and business.
Whelp... there goes the biggest selling point I had for using the Microsoft Authenticator app over SMS for the "Why would I want an app on my phone when I can just get a text" crowd...
That's going to suck, too... I have to authenticate many times a day and it was really convenient to be able to have my watch on and just tap "Approve" whenever I was logging into one of my Microsoft accounts :/
That's going to suck, too... I have to authenticate many times a day and it was really convenient to be able to have my watch on and just tap "Approve" whenever I was logging into one of my Microsoft accounts :/
Not to mention getting text messages with a code or maybe even a link just isn’t secure anymore, either. Some people may notice an increase in spam texts in the past year or so. A lot of times, the nefarious actor on the other end doesn’t necessarily need you to reply, they just need you to read the message itself. Sending a read receipt acknowledges that you have that phone number. Not to mention that sometimes people just get texts for things and they think it’s work related or something. So they just have a link. I can’t wait until passkey is fully supported everywhere.
Actually if the tenant admin does nothing the number matching will not be forced until May.
"We will remove the admin controls and enforce the number match experience tenant-wide for all users of Microsoft Authenticator push notifications starting May 8, 2023."
Poor Macrumors reporting. watchOS doesn't meet current guidelines for personal interactive input to respond to a notification. Most of these improvements are NIST guidelines, so it's safer to remove since iOS app can do it. This falls on Apple more than anything else, tell them to not only to innovate, but keep up.
And this is why I don't have any Microsoft products, it's in their DNA, if they do something right, they amend it by messing it up latter. Microsoft was and is still full of bozos. They had luck with ChatGPT, they would have never ever made something good with AI by themselves, not in a million years. PD: just wait and see how they will eventually mess up that too, because they are microsoft.
Switch on 2 step verification for MS account you have no choice use which Authentication app, only allow MS Authentication app only? Is that correct? So I cannot use iOS build in Authentication for MS account? Nothing online I can find confirm this.
I just checked. There is an option for notification-based push approvals as well as TOTP codes integrated with MS Authenticator. They also support TOTP with third-party apps, SMS, and voice calls.
With corporate accounts, the organization admin can specify which 2FA options are available to users since some policies may prohibit less secure choices, like SMS.
I cannot seem find anything about 3rd party apps support anywhere, all setup guide seem force you use MS own app. It just so annoying that you are stuck one option while others like gmail I can pick and choose.
If you log in to https://account.live.com, go to Security, then click "Get Started" under Advanced Security Options.
From there, choose "Add a new way to sign in or verify" and then "Use an app." It will encourage you to install MS Authenticator, but there is an option to set up a different Authenticator app.
From there, choose "Add a new way to sign in or verify" and then "Use an app." It will encourage you to install MS Authenticator, but there is an option to set up a different Authenticator app.