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bigandy

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Microsoft has launched the latest version of its web browser, Internet Explorer 8 (IE8)
Microsoft says that IE8 is more secure, allows users to cut down on common tasks and will be an integral part of its forthcoming Windows 7 system.

BBC


I'm mostly intrigued by the "integral part of it's forthcoming Windows 7" part. I thought they were stopping that because of antitrust suits.


Oh well. :rolleyes:
 
Anytime a new version of IE comes out, a huge number of websites, all with proper coding stop working, therefore, people like me in Tech Support get hundreds of calls saying "the Internet is broken" when come to find out their favorite website doesn't work with the new IE.

TEG
 
Misleading title. I thought we were looking at another Cisco source code theft or something along those lines.

Thanks for the tip though, I'll update my partners computer.

AppleMatt
 
I'm not impressed so far. Like 7, it looks like a Vista app even when running on XP. However, even more annoying is the "compatibility view". Since MS has made the engine a lot more standards compliant, they've added CV as a way to use the old IE 7 engine on sites that don't support 8. The problem I have is that as soon as I open a site, I get a little balloon saying "If this site doesn't look right then click here to switch to compatibility view". Am I going to keep getting this for every single site?! :eek:
 
Anytime a new version of IE comes out, a huge number of websites, all with proper coding stop working, therefore, people like me in Tech Support get hundreds of calls saying "the Internet is broken" when come to find out their favorite website doesn't work with the new IE.

TEG

+1. Having worked in a tech support position when IE7 came out, we dealt with that all the time.

This will break a ton of sites that look fine in IE7, just like IE7 broke a ton of sites in IE6. And now web developers everywhere will have to update their sites so they look fine in IE8. In the meantime, a site coded to XHTML standards looks fine in any version of Firefox or Safari :rolleyes:
 
I'm not impressed so far. Like 7, it looks like a Vista app even when running on XP. However, even more annoying is the "compatibility view". Since MS has made the engine a lot more standards compliant, they've added CV as a way to use the old IE 7 engine on sites that don't support 8. The problem I have is that as soon as I open a site, I get a little balloon saying "If this site doesn't look right then click here to switch to compatibility view". Am I going to keep getting this for every single site?! :eek:

Is that Version Targeting? I haven't seen it in action yet so I don't know how they implemented it.

I really would like to see (and this is completely unrealistic, I realize) IEn fail so miserably it's got a user percentage less than Netscape 4. I don't use it except for testing, and when I tried it in the Win7 beta, I was surprised at how hard to use it was.

...and allowing the user to uninstall it from their new Windows system isn't right either imo - the antitrust lawyers should have forced M$ to either dual-install and dual-promote Firefox, or make it plain English the security flaws of & how to uninstall IE.
 
To be fair, they are allowing you to remove it now, or, at least they will in Windows 7. I suspect this is their way of getting around the EU court rulings.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9128976
I bet you won't be able to remove it completely. The word "integrated" surely wouldn't be used if that were the case.

How does this have anything to do with the thread title, "Microsoft Breaks Internet"?

That's what I'm wondering. I thought they really broke it or something.

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Anytime a new version of IE comes out, a huge number of websites, all with proper coding stop working, therefore, people like me in Tech Support get hundreds of calls saying "the Internet is broken" when come to find out their favorite website doesn't work with the new IE.

TEG

+1. Having worked in a tech support position when IE7 came out, we dealt with that all the time.

This will break a ton of sites that look fine in IE7, just like IE7 broke a ton of sites in IE6. And now web developers everywhere will have to update their sites so they look fine in IE8. In the meantime, a site coded to XHTML standards looks fine in any version of Firefox or Safari :rolleyes:

I'm glad two people got what I was on about in the thread title.

IE is horrific for rendering. It's too compliant with it's own standards. :rolleyes:

I'll update my partners computer.

No point in rushing to update a computer to IE8 - you need to ensure it'll work with the sites you need to visit first.
 
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