Microsoft calls rivals 'Pretenders'

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  1. CANEHDN macrumors 6502a

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  2. clevin macrumors G3

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    pretenders? ugly, Ballmer always has a big mouth.

    I guess he is trying to copy SJ to invent a slogan, much like SJ accuses competitors as "photocopiers".
     
  3. twoodcc macrumors P6

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    yeah he does
     
  4. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Fixed your omission
     
  5. sananda macrumors 68020

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    nothing wrong with calling microsoft rivals pretenders. a pretender is a someone who claims a throne. microsoft are clearly the biggest software company and rival companies seek to challenge that position. so they are pretenders.
     
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    there are several meanings to the word "pretender". this one more fits this article:

    One who simulates, pretends, or alleges falsely; a hypocrite or dissembler.
     
  7. sananda macrumors 68020

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    how does that better fit the article?
     
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    Agreed.

    I don't see how any of us can infer which meaning Ballmer had in mind without follow up questions.

    But aside from that, this is all stuff that any good CEO would say about his company. Have you watched or read interviews with other CEOs? They're not going to praise the competition (unless it's back-handed) and they'll always position themselves as market leaders and innovators.
     
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    i thought he was implying that others were being hypocritical about actually believing that they could take-on M$
     
  10. CANEHDN thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If you take this in to consideration with other things he's said, he means it as complete insult. The problem with this guy is he can't appreciate what other have to to certain markets in the IT industry. He always claims that "This technology won't work" or "This won't become popular". He thinks that Microsoft is the reason anything is popular or mainstream. At least Steve Jobs realizes Microsoft is a worthy competition.
     
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    If he's talking about it, he's worried. If he wasn't worried, why expend the energy?
     
  12. CANEHDN thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    This is true.
     
  13. sananda macrumors 68020

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    What he said about pretenders and microsoft was this:

    "I think when it comes time to really building platforms; we have a lot of experience," he said. "It's taken us 17 years but people think we finally get it a little bit in the enterprise. Some of the pretenders have no enterprise expertise."

    A lot of expertise, he said, comes down to the actual feature set and functionality competitive applications have, especially on the Web. "At the end of the day, the actual functionality in the application still matters," he said. "People don't want to go backward when it comes to presentation or word processing capabilities." Later, he specifically called out Google (NSDQ: GOOG). "What we've seen out of the other guys is maybe not even as good as 'me, too,' so I feel very well differentiated versus Google on the productivity, business infrastructure space."

    from which you are taking him to mean by pretender "one simulates, pretends, or alleges falsely; a hypocrite or dissemble".

    and you think that fits in with the article. i don't see how you possible came to that conclusion. he says that that microsoft have 17 years' of enterprise experience and those that seek to challenge them lack that same experience. where is the allegation of falsehoods (which in your supposes more relevant definition of pretender)?
     
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    yeah, that they are "pretending" to challenge them.....they are lying to themselves.....that's the falsehood
     
  15. Drile macrumors member

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    I was at the USA Today CEO forum at UW when Balmer spoke.

    I can't imagine working for him. He is just so loud and overpowering. The interviewer asked him if group think sets in at MS. He responded that he lets new ideas foster, but then they all need to be on the same page. I still can't imagine being that one guy in the room to really challenge Balmer.
     
  16. sananda macrumors 68020

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    well i think you are imagining a subtext.
     

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