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Who in their right mind is willingly using Edge on a Mac?

My one and only MS product I will touch is Excel, and that's only because it's sorta necessary in my work. Everything else is complete garbage.
 
Today I got a question from Google when I did a Google search. It was something about "Do you want to always have AI answers mode". I declined.
I like AI, and I have daily dialogues with GPT. But let me decide when I want to use AI.

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Who in their right mind is willingly using Edge on a Mac?

My one and only MS product I will touch is Excel, and that's only because it's sorta necessary in my work. Everything else is complete garbage.
It's just a bog standard chromium browser. Used to work just as well as chrome but with less bloat, but I'm guessing the bloat has caught up by now. I used to use Edge until a glitch rendered all of my saved passwords unreadable.
 
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Avoiding MS products is one of you best moves, especially if you don't them phoning home/sending telemetry
Right? I use VS2022 for development work and together with an electronics based CAD package these two apps the only reason I need to use Windows. So I use them in a VM on my Mac which works out great. The contrast between the privacy focused Apple world and the personal data grabbing MS world is incredible and the gap is increasing all the time.

I literally have to fight Windows to prevent it from constantly trying to take over my search engine choice (DDG) or to install more Copilot things I neither want nor need.

I don't have Windows signed into a Microsoft account. The constant badgering to turn on services that will enable their telemetry, link my computer to an account - it's never ending. Not only is it potentially a security issue for me, it is completely and unacceptably intrusive.
 
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Who in their right mind is willingly using Edge on a Mac?

My one and only MS product I will touch is Excel, and that's only because it's sorta necessary in my work. Everything else is complete garbage.
I use Edge, Arc and Brave since those have proper vertical tabs.
 
Yeah, no. Upgraded to Win 11 last week (waited as long as I could). Win 10 already stuffed Copilot AI in your face and Win 11 just continues with that.

Good thing only use this PC for gaming.
 
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Right? I use VS2022 for development work and together with an electronics based CAD package these two apps the only reason I need to use Windows. So I use them in a VM on my Mac which works out great. The contrast between the privacy focused Apple world and the personal data grabbing MS world is incredible and the gap is increasing all the time.

I literally have to fight Windows to prevent it from constantly trying to take over my search engine choice (DDG) or to install more Copilot things I neither want nor need.

I don't have Windows signed into a Microsoft account. The constant badgering to turn on services that will enable their telemetry, link my computer to an account - it's never ending. Not only is it potentially a security issue for me, it is completely and unacceptably intrusive.

LOL. What are the odds? The only software I used/needed that wasn’t available on Mac was Altium, another electrical design system.
 
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It does not work using a Professional profile and thus it's useless for million of people. Goodbye.
 
I just pulled out a 6-year-old Acer Swift 1 (4GB memory) from the drawer, where it had been sitting for about five months, and enabled the OS update. There were six major Windows 11-related updates, and it took exactly 29 minutes to update everything. The new AI powered Edge was there, responding quite well. Can macOS Tahoe run on older machines, by the way? How come Windows 11 runs smoothly on weaker and older machines?
 
Uselessssssss!
Just make a quick way to access frequent sites!.
No browser has a decent bookmark way!. Why I have to type a website name EVERYF***time or look for it in google?. Why is not saved in a empty page?.
Safari is an ads eater browser.
 
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We have to tinker with those tweaks at the risk of bricking that older Mac, while Microsoft demonstrates how to install Windows 11 on weaker, older machines. That's a significant difference. Microsoft is a software company, whereas Apple is a hardware company that needs to sell newer machines consistently to stay afloat.
 
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Not bad! Have to play with it and see, if I can drop Safari...Safari has lately been playing havoc with YouTube videos, occasionally causing them to blur at random.
 
I just pulled out a 6-year-old Acer Swift 1 (4GB memory) from the drawer, where it had been sitting for about five months, and enabled the OS update. There were six major Windows 11-related updates, and it took exactly 29 minutes to update everything. The new AI powered Edge was there, responding quite well. Can macOS Tahoe run on older machines, by the way? How come Windows 11 runs smoothly on weaker and older machines?

Curious. I just updated a high-end gaming machine less than 6 years old. I had to tweak numerous BIOS settings (only after updating the BIOS so it would enable support for TPM 2.0). I then had to re-partition my hard drive to support GPT and after 2 hours getting this done I was finally able to update to Windows 11.

Our work has multiple computers that won’t support Windows 11 as their motherboards/processors aren’t compatible. A lot of people are in the same boat.

Was you Acer set to GPT from the factory? Did it have TPM 2.0 enabled? Or did you have to do it yourself before updating?
 
I use Microsoft Edge because it is *way* better than Safari. It loads pages faster, renders faster, syncs better between devices, offers more extensions, multiple accounts work better, it's cross-platform, and since Apple turned Safari into a mess on iOS 26, the mobile experience is more efficient in Edge. I keep trying to go back to Safari, but there are too many compromises.

Similar experience with Outlook vs. Mail. Outlook is ugly and I can't get used to the all-in-one design, but the formatting options work so much better than the ones in Mail that it makes my workflow more efficient when composing messages. For example, numbered lists actually work correctly, pasted images can be resized by dragging, and attachments appear at the top of the message (yes, I know they're "hidden" in a drop-down at the top of messages in Mail, along with every inline graphic file that is in the message--not intuitive).

When I have work to do, I'm looking for capability, not eye candy or workarounds. I had to boot up my Win 11 VM this morning because I needed to extract a table from a multi-page PDF document into Excel. Mac Excel doesn't have that capability, and neither does LibreOffice, but Windows Excel does. Do I do this every day? No. But when I need to do it, having the tools immediately available so that my workflow remains efficient is what's important. I prefer the macOS user experience, stability, privacy, and hardware, but sometimes I have to boot up the Windows VM. Linux is even farther away (a long way) when it comes to efficient productivity. Hacks, scripting, and workarounds are not efficient when the Microsoft app will perform the desired function in 2 or 3 clicks. As an added bonus, most of the business world uses Microsoft Office, so compatibility is not a concern when exchanging documents (LibreOffice is good, but not perfect).

Microsoft has started "injecting" Copilot into the app experience, but you can quickly disable it in the application preferences, including in Edge on the desktop and iOS.
 
Was you Acer set to GPT from the factory? Did it have TPM 2.0 enabled? Or did you have to do it yourself before updating?
No, it didn't have TPM 2.0 enabled. I did that myself a few years ago. It was my wife's laptop. There was a GitHub script to do that back then, but I can't remember it now. Since that Windows 11 update, it keeps updating whenever I allow it. For about a year now, she has had a mini Windows 11 box paired with a wall-mounted 24" Aizo monitor. She doesn't want any laptops anymore. I'm just keeping it as it is because it's so lightweight, weighing less than 1 kg, with a nice screen and a backlit keyboard.
 
And just think Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01 was one of the best browsers available for the Macintosh computers at one time. 🤔
 
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