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I think we discussed quality vs quantity in the 90s. About the time Seinfeld was relevant.

That $300 million ($287 million) was worldwide. Not that impressive really. And it didn't get a very favorable critical response either.

I wasn't saying it was the greatest movie ever (I didn't see it) nor the most successful, I was just pointing out it wasn't the flop that some of the folks in this thread seem to be suggesting it was...

And it made well over $100 million domestically. Again, not a blockbuster, but certainly a success.
 
Give me a break:rolleyes:. Not one person in this discussion would turn down that kind of money just to do a MS ad. Like one person stated earlier, Apple isn't a religion.


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I'm 14 and it's one of my favorite shows. A lot of my friends watch it too.

It's still being aired on TBS. I think that while Seinfeld is still popular, MS should've have gone with someone younger.

MS needs a mid-life crisis.
 
Exactly what I was thinking. With Seinfeld and Gates on camera. It's like it Apple made an ad that went "Hi, I'm a PC, And I'm a PC too.."

This can't work for Microsoft. Not because the ads are bad, heck, they might even be good. But it just the numbers that don't work for them. Microsoft simply has nothing to gain. It's as if you made and ad that said "Air is good. Breath air" well how many non-breathers are there? Air can't increase it's market share. What has Microsoft to gain even of a quarter the Linux and Mac users switched to Windows, Microsoft would gain only less than 2%.

The numbers work in Apple's favor because Apple only needs a 2 percent of Microsoft's user base to switch and Apple sales go up by 50%. Microsoft simply can't increase sales any more no matter how good the ad.

I think they are targeting younger people who use Mac and Linux, but more importantly, people who use XP and Office 2003 who don't want to upgrade to MS's new stuff.
 
When a comedian does an advert he sells his words and his opinion, that's all a comedian has. He now has zero integrity as a comedian, his opinion is tainted with money.
But he was never any good as a comedian, so it's not like it's any big loss to the world or anything.
 
Exactly! He was a mac user when mac's weren't cool. How are they going to play that off?

In fact, I never saw him actually using his Mac. In the Seinfeld sitcom, it was always just sitting there on the table, never switched on..
 
When a comedian does an advert he sells his words and his opinion, that's all a comedian has. He now has zero integrity as a comedian, his opinion is tainted with money.
But he was never any good as a comedian, so it's not like it's any big loss to the world or anything.

Yeah, because after he did all those American Express commercials, he had plenty of integrity left...

I honestly don't think anyone cares about people doing commercials and "selling out" anymore. Maybe 10 or 20 years ago, you lost your cool. Now, everyone does it.
 
Yeah, because after he did all those American Express commercials, he had plenty of integrity left...

I honestly don't think anyone cares about people doing commercials and "selling out" anymore. Maybe 10 or 20 years ago, you lost your cool. Now, everyone does it.

I don't live in america, never saw those or knew about them.
I still like my comedians to be able to rant about what they want and take on whoever they want without upsetting their advertisers.
 
I don't live in america, never saw those or knew about them.
I still like my comedians to be able to rant about what they want and take on whoever they want without upsetting their advertisers.

That's good in theory, but I'd love to see the comedian who'd turn down $10million from Microsoft to do some ads.

I don't think he or she exists.
 
The mac ads are hard to watch if you know anything about both windows and osx (and one of the many reasons I dislike apple as a company even though I enjoy their products) but they have been doing a great job so I can see why Microsoft is following suite.

I do think however that Microsoft's issue is not necessarily with it's ads but its presentations of its products. Windows XP came out, had plenty of updates and revisions up until Vista but Microsoft squandered them in "Service Packs" and the like. OS X came out and has had plenty of updates and revisions but they are always met by a new name (the cat thing is genius), months of circle jerks, some visual stylings and a price tag. Now Vista is out, it has plenty of issues, the same issues XP had and OSX had when they first came out but instead of renaming Vista to something else in a new revision they will probably hide the changes in a service pack and continue to ride the bad reputation they currently have even if the product is more functional and stable. It's really a shame.
 
The "Get a Mac" ads are a bit overblown..... If i were MS I would have asked for a tone down or told Apple they risked losing Office.
 
can't wait

i can't wait to see it. I love the mac ads and would be great to have some competition directly from Microsoft and not just there hardware makers

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Whilst, I doubt anyone would actually turn down that amount of money. Surely it would be better spent on Windows 7 or Vista SP2?

I just got hired for a part time job in an insurance office. The boss is slowly turning all the machines over to Linux and Open Office. The only machines that will remain MicroSoft based will be those relating to the Halifax Building Society.

His reason - MicroSoft have become to greedy for poor workmanship.

Maybe they should concentrate on keeping the customers they have instead of trying to get even more.
 
I'll take it over Scientology....

Scientology = Cult

They're the biggest bunch of crackpots...just look at some of the members...

  • Tom Cruise = Weirdo
  • John Travolta = Weirdo #2
  • Issac Hayes = RIP Weirdo

Brainwashing screwballs...
 
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