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Apple's had multiple desktops (Spaces) back in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Welcome, Windows users, to 2007.

XWindows has had it since the late 80s. Most UNIX Systems have had it for decades. Adding Multiple Windows to NeXTSTEP was always an option, we just had a slicker way of managing windows by dbl-clicking+cmd autohiding all the clutter but the app and it's already pre-layedout views. Then there is Services in NeXTSTEP that was far more apparent than in OS X [now finally starting to show it's power].

XWindows just though virtual views of cluttered windows [4, 8, 12, etc views] was somehow better. The problem is you invariably get into a habit of too many virtual window views.

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Within a few week of this being released, Windows 10 will have more users than OSX.

Apple would love to be in this position.

I'd like Apple to be in this position but windows is still alive and isn't going anywhere - no matter how many people on these forums predict the demise of Microsoft!

Yes, but each iteration sees less Windows users and more OS X users. Contrast that with iOS and Windows Mobile and you have hundreds of millions of ardent iOS users and scores of Windows Mobile users.
 
I know there's a lot of MS haters here but aside from the Metro Style interface and start screen Windows 8 was rock solid. Windows 8.1 even better. And I have to say Windows 10 looks like it might be a winner when released next year.

I've been using OS X since Leopard and I can honestly say that in the last 3 years there have been more and more persistent bugs. I haven't tried Yosemite yet but I'm hoping it's better than the previous 2 releases.

I don't mind the redesign so much though I didn't really see a need for it. I'm more concerned about stability and not losing useful features that I enjoy now.

Just last friday my 'rock solid' Windows got hacked. The virus disabled anti virus protection and deleted all my work files(yea, i need to work on Windows sometimes). Thanks God i have backup policies, but i still lost a LOT of apps personalizations, self developed tools, documents etc. Windows where opening up by themselfs like Christmas lights and error messages where all over the place. i could not install anything, basically the system was busted and apps/documents and work files deleted and i was unable to recover anything. The Windows is used online very rare and only on skype/gmail and a bunch of others when i need to share screen with clients. BUT, when i need to work on it, i also need to be online sometimes. And guess what? In 2 years i got hacked so many times i can't even count them with all my security policies and virus protection and what not. So yeas, Windows is great for support and you find all the possible working tools on it, but the security is still the weakest point. It also has serious performance issues(the same 3d scene renders 20-30% faster on mac or linux) and you can basically skip a complete upgrade cycle by just moving to linux on your hardware. This gives you 20-30% boost in performance without spending a dime. So while it looks ok, and has some nice features and all the support in the world, Windows is still plagued by the same old issues.
 
Just last friday my 'rock solid' Windows got hacked. The virus disabled anti virus protection and deleted all my work files(yea, i need to work on Windows sometimes). Thanks God i have backup policies, but i still lost a LOT of apps personalizations, self developed tools, documents etc. Windows where opening up by themselfs like Christmas lights and error messages where all over the place. i could not install anything, basically the system was busted and apps/documents and work files deleted and i was unable to recover anything. The Windows is used online very rare and only on skype/gmail and a bunch of others when i need to share screen with clients. BUT, when i need to work on it, i also need to be online sometimes. And guess what? In 2 years i got hacked so many times i can't even count them with all my security policies and virus protection and what not. So yeas, Windows is great for support and you find all the possible working tools on it, but the security is still the wekeast point. It also has serious performance issues(the same 3d scene renders 20-30% faster on mac or linux) and you can basically skip a complete upgrade cycle by just moving to linux on your hardware. This gives you 20-30% boost in performance without spending a dime. So while it looks ok, and has some nice features and all the support in the world, Windows is still plagued by the same old issues.

Kind of sensationalistic reply there...if not, perhaps you're the problem? I've had ONE virus in Windows, and I've been a user since Windows 95.
It's pretty simple - stay off the porn, warez, and torrent sites.

Either way, I'll never understand this brand devotion people have - one way or the other. All of these companies exist to make money. There is no idealism in a brand.
 
Surprisingly, it looks great!!

This is the first time ever that I've been excited about a Windows release.

The switch between touch and desktop is intuitive and well-designed. THIS is how you do integration (it needs a bit more polish, but still).

It also incorporates many Mac (or Linux) features that were not available anywhere else. (FINALLY, multiple desktops). If they're accompanied by trackpads that are as smooth and responsive as Apple's, they would become a viable alternative to the Mac platform (for me, at least).

Whether it works as smoothly as advertised remains to be seen, but I think this will certainly add longevity to the Windows franchise if the execution is there.

I also prefer MSoft's take on "flat" than Apple's take. Apple really ticked me off with iOS; particularly with the inability to restore to the software that came with my device when I bought it (iPhone 4s, iPad 2).

And they're still doing this. That is just unacceptable. I'm afraid that eventually Apple will migrate that policy to the desktop. If (or when) that happens, it's good to know that at least Microsoft is pulling from the right sources and incorporating really useful features into their OS. I might have to switch back after 15 years. I want computers, not just appliances.

Bravo, Satya.

I like where this is going.

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I wish OS X would include a window snapping feature. It is really useful.

Try Better Touch Tool.

http://www.boastr.net/
 
Kind of sensationalistic reply there...if not, perhaps you're the problem? I've had ONE virus in Windows, and I've been a user since Windows 95.
It's pretty simple - stay off the porn, warez, and torrent sites.

Either way, I'll never understand this brand devotion people have - one way or the other. All of these companies exist to make money. There is no idealism in a brand.

Or use Mac, FreeBSD, or Linux to torrent things… I've gotten my share of viruses in Windows without doing anything sketchy. Even worse is the lack of any separate superuser privileges. It's like being logged into the root user in Unix constantly, even before the login screen in some (or all?) versions. I'm done with that.
 
.Either way, I'll never understand this brand devotion people have - one way or the other. All of these companies exist to make money. There is no idealism in a brand.

Humans are tribal. They need to be part of a group. We actually look for things to be loyal to. Sports teams are a big one, political parties another. Apple vs. Windows, Apple vs. Samsung. Et al.
 
Just last friday my 'rock solid' Windows got hacked. The virus disabled anti virus protection and deleted all my work files(yea, i need to work on Windows sometimes). Thanks God i have backup policies, but i still lost a LOT of apps personalizations, self developed tools, documents etc. Windows where opening up by themselfs like Christmas lights and error messages where all over the place. i could not install anything, basically the system was busted and apps/documents and work files deleted and i was unable to recover anything. The Windows is used online very rare and only on skype/gmail and a bunch of others when i need to share screen with clients. BUT, when i need to work on it, i also need to be online sometimes. And guess what? In 2 years i got hacked so many times i can't even count them with all my security policies and virus protection and what not. So yeas, Windows is great for support and you find all the possible working tools on it, but the security is still the weakest point. It also has serious performance issues(the same 3d scene renders 20-30% faster on mac or linux) and you can basically skip a complete upgrade cycle by just moving to linux on your hardware. This gives you 20-30% boost in performance without spending a dime. So while it looks ok, and has some nice features and all the support in the world, Windows is still plagued by the same old issues.
You're the problem. Pure and simple. Since 1990 I had two viruses and both were in the nineties and both were my own fault. As for performance you're really making yourself sound silly. Maybe... never mind it's not worth it.:rolleyes:
 
I know there's a lot of MS haters here but aside from the Metro Style interface and start screen Windows 8 was rock solid. Windows 8.1 even better. And I have to say Windows 10 looks like it might be a winner when released next year.

I've been using OS X since Leopard and I can honestly say that in the last 3 years there have been more and more persistent bugs. I haven't tried Yosemite yet but I'm hoping it's better than the previous 2 releases.

I don't mind the redesign so much though I didn't really see a need for it. I'm more concerned about stability and not losing useful features that I enjoy now.

You use the tag-line "Don't be stupid", but you comment as if you actually are. Unless you are running a hopelessly-spec'ed Hackintosh, you are far off the mark. I too am using Mac OS since Leopard, and on an actual Apple machine since Mountain Lion, and can honestly say I have not suffered from one single bug. Conclusion: MS fanboi lost on an unfamiliar website.
 
In fact, I recently tried ElementaryOS; it's a pretty OS X like Linux distro with a lot of great features of its own, one of which is a total lack of a desktop folder! You can still have a background image, but you can't put icons on the desktop, it's total genius. Might sound like a silly issue, but I've been dealing with messy desktops (not just my own, as I've gotten quite tidy over the years) since Windows 95 and Mac OS 7! Maybe it's just a pet peeve, but I want an end to it!

I have the same peeve. Whenever I get a new Mac, one of the first things I do is disable desktop icons. You can do it via the command line, but I prefer just using TinkerTool: http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html

Once you download TinkerTool (no installation or admin password needed), the option is under Finder > Disable Desktop Features. I get TinkerTool rather than using the command line because there are a few other common settings I like that it's a pain in the butt to remember the once per Mac that I need them, like showing hidden files and changing the directory that screenshots are automatically saved into.
 
I wonder what Apple is going to do about this push from Microsoft. They are increasing productivity 10-fold for users. Something Mac has been lacking for ages.

I bet they're not going to do more than what they're doing now. Microsoft is finally getting on board with the unification of their system across multiple platforms and I think that's good.

Once MS starts taking charge of their production lines for all equipment, then that would be a problem. What it goes down to now (again) is that Windows 10 will more than likely be a solid release and a good OS but other manufacturers will end up giving Windows a bad name bc they'll be using older/cheaper parts to sell their bottom-level devices and things will stop working the way that they're supposed to.

It's sad really.
 
Oh I don't know, 86% of all pc owners in the world? :rolleyes:

The people who are still forced to use Windows. I'm looking forward to replacing Windows 7 with Windows 10 at work.

There's no reason I couldn't use OS X at work... and I wanted to have a "but" on this sentence but I couldn't think of a good thing to say and now I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a problem to use OS X or Linux at work...
 
For those who don't know what this poster is referring to check out this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interface

Of course, if you read the linked article, you might still be wondering what the poster's point was. It's part of the Mac myth that Apple "stole" the idea of a GUI and mouse from Xerox PARC (Apple paid for the visit and went well beyond what Xerox had done), just as it's a myth that Windows "stole" the Mac OS look and feel (they had an agreement that allowed them to copy it, and had better lawyers to get away with continuing to copy it).

The point being the word "stole" is pretty loaded and seldom accurate. Steve Jobs liked to quote Picasso "Good artists borrow (copy), great artists steal" recognizing we cannot ignore our past experience when creating.

Samsung, however.... :)

And If I remember correctly, didn't Xerox also get quite a hefty amount of Apple stock as well?
 
Multiple desktops... like... the feature Mac OSX has had for years? And all of the great new improvements are just normal old features they brought back. Fullscreen apps open the same way desktop apps do? Woah. Revolutionary.

How do PC users not recognize how far ahead of windows OSX is?

Wait, I thought my Mac was also a PC? PC = Personal Computer?

Stop the hate. I use Windows and Mac OSX. To me they are all the same with a different skin. I just trust my Windows machine more when I'm doing torrents and gaming. I just my Mac for my family's use so I know they won't break anything.
 
Microsoft just suck at presentation. Honestly. That haircut. Could they not find a nice'r PC/screen? And that desktop looks like **** - laminated wood? And, that pulsating color!?

But - some of the features like split screen looks nice.
 
Yes, but each iteration sees less Windows users and more OS X users. Contrast that with iOS and Windows Mobile and you have hundreds of millions of ardent iOS users and scores of Windows Mobile users.
Just because you typed it doesn't make it true.
Without facts to prove your statement, this is just propaganda to help support your stance on the topic.
 
Nope. None whatsoever.
Well, I'm a Mac user. As well as an iPad and iPhone user. And I'm interested in knowing about the latest Windows development. Even Windows phone development. It's called "knowledge". It's always good to know about what the competition is developing.

Funny that you have no interest in Windows, and yet you spent the time to read through the comments about it. Then spent some more time to reply. Twice. That you're so not interested. Not even a little bit. :rolleyes:
 
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