windows definelty is not the same code as mac os x. even assuming that is is the same code is kinda dumb since they even totaly different kernel and os cathegory
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loved ms win xp - though not perfect
too bad ms doenst have legacy programs to keep win xp and 7 going
too bad ms doenst have legacy programs to keep win xp and 7 going
People often get this wrong, but its usually the “iPhone wasn’t first” crowd. The Prada phone was first with a capacitive touchscreen, but it was, at its core, a single-touch, button-driven interface which happened to use a capacitive screen. Apple was the first to deliver a multitouch OS; not to mention they invented the majority of the gestures used on all touchscreen phones.
Yeah, I don't know why people bring up the Prada. Its UI felt like an early prototype compared to iPhoneOS 1.0. Superficially, yes, it had a big touch screen. In practice, that's about where the similarities end. (It did have a better camera than the original iPhone, though.)
Well, pinch to zoom, for example, was demo'd in February 2006 by Jeff Han:
People bring up Prada because they think that the iPhone’s accomplishment was having a capacitive screen. Im pretty sure we’ve also seen pinch in sci-fi movies/tv shows as well; not to mention touchscreen tablets in Star Trek.
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Yeah, arguably, Minority Report showed it in 2002. I'm not sure if they in turn were inspired by an earlier research project.
And, yep, I would argue Star Trek TNG/DS9 "PADDs" were an inspiration for the modern iPad form factor (as opposed to the clunkier early-2000s' Tablet PC).
Even Johnny Mnemonic showed him pushing items to the side, admittedly in a three dimensional space with gloves, which I suppose someone could claim was a prior example of a swipe gesture if they were desperate to invalidate the years of Apple development and innovation in their OS. Similarly I suppose there was no innovation in the first video chatting computer apps because it was around in worlds fair technology concepts and movies a half century before.
Of course when you argue with such broad strokes it means that there has been zero innovation in Android; the first release was a direct reaction to the iPhone and every Android feature has appeared on desktop computers, previous mobile devices, or iOS Jailbreak features at one point.
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Look of Aqua triggers not great reactions. For me, I preferred UI look in Win2K compared to many earlier versions of OSX. Biggest thing that bugged me for many years was inconsistent look between apps shipping with the OS. Network tool, Calculator, Finder, Settings. a few apps may have hung on to pinstripe for many, many years until finally consistency I think around... Snow Leopard? Once a bit of focus was made to keep UI consistent, I liked the experience that much more.
Yeah, once every year or so, I enjoy popping snow leopard on an old MBP in the workshop for an afternoon, until I remember that almost none of the basic functions I’d use it for work anymore.
That came with Leopard, as I think it was one of things Steve actually touched upon while on stage about having consistent window looks after receiving a few years of mixed criticisms about the jumping from pinstripes, to brushed metal, and flat colors etc.
Just because they may have paid for the demo doesn’t mean they didn’t copy it.
Yeah, I know that. Never assumed any of that. Just that they tried to make XP look like OS X but of course xp was crappy and crash prone. Hence the joke. But apparently it went wooosh over your head.
I miss the look of Tiger and Panther, love the brushed metal and aqua as a whole during that time, however, functionality wise, I would NEVER be able to go back to it.
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I wonder what Steve Jobs really meant when he said (quoted Picasso?):
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal".
I'm not 100% sure what he meant, but within that context I can say, with the straightest of faces, that Apple are truly GREAT artists.
Copying is just not enough. It is the application (pun intended) of what was copied that makes something great.
This is akin to martial arts: just copying the movements DOES NOT make you a good fighter.
Apple's kung-fu is outstanding, more often than not.
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal".
I'm not 100% sure what he meant, but within that context I can say, with the straightest of faces, that Apple are truly GREAT artists.
Copying is just not enough. It is the application (pun intended) of what was copied that makes something great.
This is akin to martial arts: just copying the movements DOES NOT make you a good fighter.
Apple's kung-fu is outstanding, more often than not.
He wasn't quoting Picasso. He was quoting me. I wrote that.I wonder what Steve Jobs really meant when he said (quoted Picasso?):
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal".
I'm not 100% sure what he meant, but within that context I can say, with the straightest of faces, that Apple are truly GREAT artists.
Copying is just not enough. It is the application (pun intended) of what was copied that makes something great.
This is akin to martial arts: just copying the movements DOES NOT make you a good fighter.
Apple's kung-fu is outstanding, more often than not.
I would like to suggest maybe both of you are wrong. Took me a while to find it again but there is a good article from Stanford about the Xerox PARC visit. It highlights some of the earlier work that Douglas Engelbart has done on graphical user interfaces as well.
The Mother of all Demos.....I did a piece on this at University as part of my HCI module.
It was absolutely incredible at the time!!