Numbers is nearly unusable. It doesn't even have the formulas Excel has. There's a good reason why Excel is the only Microsoft thing I deal with. Pages and Keynote, however, have completely replaced Word and PowerPoint for me, and I used to think they'd never be any good. Now, they might be useless if Apple continues messing them up like they did with iWork '13...
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Numbers is nearly unusable. It doesn't even have the formulas Excel has. There's a good reason why Excel is the only Microsoft thing I deal with. Pages and Keynote, however, have completely replaced Word and PowerPoint for me, and I used to think they'd never be any good. Now, they might be useless if Apple continues messing them up like they did with iWork '13...
I agree with your assessment. Pages 5 (iWork '13) has removed linked text boxes
and so for that reason amongst others I'm left with iWork '09. One of the things that is making MS Office more appealing to me is the cross-platform support. Back in the day I was one of those kooks who used ClarisWorks/AppleWorks for Windows. I would love to see a Windows version of iWork '09... which is never going to happen.
The personal editions use the Outlook.com Interface which is actually hosted exchange that you can't customize the domain on and can't change some of the management features on. You can still hookup Outlook, ActiveSync, POP email apps, IMAP email accounts, iPhones, androids and everything else exchange supports. It's Exchange without the management and GAL.
Apple got to them. "I get iWork FREE and iCloud storage FREE!" Take the cost of your device (say $399 conservative) and they upgrade in three years that is over $100 a year. Let alone if they have a more expensive device, multiple devices, or upgrade sooner.
I have 799+2,599+299=$3,700 of Apple gear. I've used it roughly 3 years, so Apple has charged me over $1,200 a year for my "FREE" services!
Consider all facts people....
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YES! So you have that problem too! I have had many documents with no Calibri, but I still get that pop up. I wondered where it was.
When I see that I wonder where all the Word experts are hiding. You know, the people who say a person can't be taken seriously if they write with anything else.
I would also argue your assertion that Exchange has no benefit to most consumers. iCloud is Apple's answer to Exchange, so you seem to be arguing that iCloud has no benefit to most consumers.
Does iCloud provide other services such as (apple specific) storage and remote device management? Yes. But at it's heart, it's still mail, contacts, calendar, notes, and reminders synchronization across devices, or at least Apple devices. If you have any other type of device, you are SOL. I'd argue that Exchange does a much better job with cross platform support, as well as again being the gold standard in Sync with ActiveSync. IMAP may now have Push, but there are still numerous clients and servers that don't support it, while push is supported by definition with ActiveSync. Exchange does have limitations in what a given client supports, and how it does so (lets not even get into category support on Apple devices).
Exchange has a lot of benefits for most consumers - either a fully hosted Exchange system, or via the Outlook.com 'personal' interface - and I think it's wrong to dismiss it. Of course, I also think it's wrong to say it's categorically better than other solutions (iCloud, google, ect.), because it really depends on what each person is going to be doing with it.
Calibri is the default font for Word at install. There is also an option to embed the font in a document (default disabled). Since it is the default font for the document, the document is created specifying it in addition to any other font that may be used in the document, even if nothing is actually using Calibri.
If you don't change either option from the default, then when you open the document, most programs will attempt to use the specified fonts, which include calibri, but may be unable to if it's not embedded in the document file. To change the default font, open the Font dialog, select your preferred font, and press the button at the bottom of the dialog labeled 'Set as Default', that should stop the Calibri problem. Alternately, you can go to Options -> Save, and choose to embed fonts (I find this works well if I'm sending a document to people who don't have word or it has multiple, non-common fonts).
Thanks for the explanation. Now maybe a few more Word users will figure it out. Those of us who don't use Word aren't able to do much about it, except respond to the warning dialog box by replacing Calibre with another font. In any case I don't see the point of embedding a font in a document that isn't actually used in that document. This sounds more like a bug than a feature.
But what if you don't want any of that? It's classic sales gimmicks - offer customers a bunch of bells and whistles they didn't want to justify the price.
For me this is another example of microsoft misunderstanding the customer.
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Apple got to them. "I get iWork FREE and iCloud storage FREE!" Take the cost of your device (say $399 conservative) and they upgrade in three years that is over $100 a year. Let alone if they have a more expensive device, multiple devices, or upgrade sooner.
I have 799+2,599+299=$3,700 of Apple gear. I've used it roughly 3 years, so Apple has charged me over $1,200 a year for my "FREE" services!
Consider all facts people....
?? No, you've paid $1200 a year for the devices you now own.
Evidently that's not the case given how given how popular the apps are in iTunes
And Word is 21st position for the top grossing apps (Excel is 39)
He loves MS and is distracted by bells and whistles
Well being the top free app means very little as you don't know how many are still using it and how many deleted it after realising you need o365 to use it.
As for grossing apps, without more information, we don't know how many people spent money on it, and the other apps in the chart.
My point was that the other member stated
and i countered that argument that they seemed to understand the customer given that it has been one of the most popular apps in the app store and its generating a lot of money.
While I agree, there's no way to know if people installed/deleted it, but the fact that they're installing it and then buying subscriptions backs up my point that MS has struck a chord with consumers on office and its very popular, i.e., they're no misunderstanding the customer.
Edit: let me just add how it seems odd that people seem unwilling to accept that MS Office apps are so popular on Apple's app store. The comment that we don't know how many people installed it and deleted it, appears numerous times in this thread. Its like they see that its near the top, but refuse to accept that instead say that people must of removed it after installing it.
True we don't know who many installed and then deleted it, but the top grossing apps backs up the top free app figure because many people who did install it, then went on to purchase the subscription.
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Sadly, no... my guess is they understand customers very well. They might not attract you as a customer, but you're probably not their target anyway. They've basically already conceded the low-cost office app market to freeware and dirt-cheap-ware. They don't want that market. They want the business market, and professionals, and anyone else for whom the cost isn't as big a factor as features. There are a lot of "bells and whistles", but if you need even just one of those bells or whistles, or think you might need it someday, it's likely you'll buy it.
Don't forget, they only need to get a fraction of the potential number of customers to make more money this way. If they let people buy it outright, for less money over time, then they wouldn't make as much money over time as they could doing it this way unless the difference in number of customers is significantly larger.
Personally I think this is short-sighted of them: in the long run as more and more people use other office apps due to price, Microsoft's key advantage of file format compatibility will diminish, and fewer people will be familiar with MS Office's user interface. As those people get into business or professional circles, Microsoft's influence will weaken and might even break. This isn't a good thing in the long run, for Microsoft.
But only time will tell if it really bites them or not. Adobe's been successful so far with this strategy.
For all we know, 2 million installed it, but only 10,000 bought a subscription. So, yea, they could still be misunderstanding the customer.... Just to play devils advocate
until actual numbers are released, using the charts is flawed. That's what my point was.
For all we know, 2 million installed it, but only 10,000 bought a subscription. So, yea, they could still be misunderstanding the customer.... Just to play devils advocate
Their subscription services are netting them nearly 10 billion in yearly revenue. With that much money pouring in, I doubt they're sitting around wondering if they misunderstood the market.
Not really, my post about misunderstanding the customer was brought on by jared321's post that stated
He was commenting on Office365 having so many bells and whistles but yet MS was misunderstanding the customer.
I brought up the iPad figures, and Renzatic brought up the actual sales figures by MS. I think both of these examples shows that MS is not misunderstanding the customer. Its been very successful no matter how you slice it.
Well considering this is a thread about the iPad app....
iPad charts does not equal the sales figure Renzatic brought up, as that's overall. Unless he has a breakdown of ipad specific sales, then it is not relevant to what you brought up. It's still flawed. I could say that all other apps below the office app at 21 in the grossing chart grossed less than $40, so the office app only had to gross $50 to be where it was. I know that's not true, but it's as baseless at what you're trying to use to support your claim.
Personally, I don't care how much they've sold, there's a definite large group that don't like, or just don't want, the subscription model and would like the option to pay a one off fee for the iOS version, just like the mac/PC version.
True and we have numbers provided by Apple to indicate that MS has a very successful Office suite and its generating a fair amount of revenue for MS (and Apple).
Right. We don't know exactly how many people are using Office for the iPad. But when you consider the sustained popularity of Office, the apparent success of 365, and that the iPad is still the single best selling tablet on the market with a user base of around 200 million people (give or take), you can make a safe assumption that there are probably more than a handful of people using it.
Microsoft Launches 'Office 365 Personal' Plan for One Mac and One iPad at $69...
But you don't have numbers though. Just a chart position. Which is relative to however much other apps have grossed.
Not arguing the popularity of Office, I like it on my PC and mac. In regard to assuming there's a high number using it, it's a flawed assumption. The sales figures you gave were for office 365 as a whole. There's no breakdown there. A high majority of that is going to be businesses, rather than personal, see I can make assumptions look factual just like you. Again, most people are talking about iPad, not overall, being as the thread is about the iPad app. When the numbers come in, then will see. Until then, I'm not going to assume one way or the other, unlike some people on here. Assuming that just because an app is top of the free chart means there's tons of people constantly using it is flat out absurd. Look at flappy bird, I guarantee you that not everyone who downloaded it is still playing it.
But you don't have numbers though. Just a chart position. Which is relative to however much other apps have grossed.
Not arguing the popularity of Office, I like it on my PC and mac. In regard to assuming there's a high number using it, it's a flawed assumption. The sales figures you gave were for office 365 as a whole. There's no breakdown there. A high majority of that is going to be businesses, rather than personal, see I can make assumptions look factual just like you. Again, most people are talking about iPad, not overall, being as the thread is about the iPad app. When the numbers come in, then will see. Until then, I'm not going to assume one way or the other, unlike some people on here. Assuming that just because an app is top of the free chart means there's tons of people constantly using it is flat out absurd. Look at flappy bird, I guarantee you that not everyone who downloaded it is still playing it.