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That's not an issue. Almost all competing software, from NeoOffice to iWork, can export in MS format.[/QUOTE]

But can they import correctly, I say NOT VERY WELL !

I find the solution that works best is Microsoft Office.

I have given up on my iPad for work only use it for meeting notes.

My Surface RT works well for office and RDP.

Just wish the screen was 4:3, it was lighter and had better battery life.
 
Most of Microsoft's products generally aren't bad, they just happen to have a bad timing for what they offer. The Zune, Windows Phone, Surface, all that stuff could have been successful it they were released earlier.
Think about it, Bill Gates could have discovered America, if only he was earlier.
He could have named the natives whatever he liked. "Indians 95 XP RT ME"
 
"When they want to do real work". What a joke

I've historically been a very heavy Office user, but made the switch to iWork including iCloud about 6 months ago. It has been a joy compared to working with Office bloatware

I take it you aren't in finance. Or in any real Fortune 500 company capacity for that matter.

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Most of them, you just tell them that "Word" has been renamed to "Pages". You tell them that Microsoft at last got rid of the horrible "ribbon" thing, that menus stay where they are, and that you have all the formatting options on the right side. You can create a few nice templates if you like to increase productivity.

Oh you also tell them that Windows is now OSX and their $400 PC just went up to at least $1300 to do simple data entry.

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Unless you need to just view or make simple alterations to an existing spreadsheet, in that case Numbers is fine 90%+ of the time.

I'd be willing to bet you don't know any CPAs or people in the Banking industry. Numbers is a joke compared to Excel to ANYONE in Finance.
 
"When they want to do real work". What a joke

I've historically been a very heavy Office user, but made the switch to iWork including iCloud about 6 months ago. It has been a joy compared to working with Office bloatware

What kind of organization do you work in?
 
They're a software company they shouldn't limit their own market. They should stick to innovating their own products rather than getting late to the punch each time with their **** releases.
Again, they are not a software company. They're a platform company defending an OS monopoly in the PC space. Microsofts prior success was never attributed to speedy releases.
 
Again, they are not a software company. They're a platform company defending an OS monopoly in the PC space. Microsofts prior success was never attributed to speedy releases.

The sheer vastness of my MSDN account would beg to differ.
 
Do we not realize that the very same kind of article could be written the other way… such as how Apple is leaving all kinds of money on the table by not making OS X (and OS X-only software) run on hardware other than Apple's own hardware. And that would be true.
No it is not true.
But if that article was posted, we'd get 500 posts calling out the author as completely insane, how locking desirable software to exclusive hardware is crucial to the success of Apple (even "genius!") and on and on. Funny how that works. ;)
Listen, if you have a viable platform, it is smart to increase its value with great exclusive content. If you have your own platform, but it isn't used very much, the same exclusivity is wasted on it. Owning a platform is profitable, but building it is hard. Only after you've been successful in the platform competition, you can cash in the benefits.
 
So Microsoft, how's that "let's withhold Office from iOS to force people to buy Surface" strategy working for you?

I love rhetorical questions…..

Still, it's kinda sad to see how far the once mighty have sunk. They were once a leading company with solid products, but now seem to wander aimlessly, without any vision, while desperately trying to see where they can get traction.

The marketplace is a continuously changing venue, and those not, or incorrectly, predicting where it's heading, are left behind.
 
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just subscribed to office 365. i hope this news is true. pages is awful.
 
Not Working Because They Don't Control The Platform

However, Microsoft's success has always hinged on being late to the party. Their MO is to show up very late to a very established market, buy their way in, and bully everyone else out.

The real question is why doesn't Microsoft's MO work anymore?

Their "MO" only worked when the software was running on their OS. Remember the old saying, "DOS isn't done 'till Lotus won't run." MS made deals with companies that bundled Office with MS-DOS/Windows. They could buy the two for less than it would cost to buy the OS and then an office package from Word Perfect or whoever. When they weren't breaking competitors' products outright with OS "revisions".

That doesn't work in the mobile space, where Microsoft is an also-ran. And MS doesn't want to give up the $200 a PC that they get for Office on Windows for a $100 a pop (or less . . . probably a lot less) Office on iOS.

In a way, the smartest move Apple made was to open the Appstore and then price applications so inexpensively. That move instantly devalued application software, which will continue to assist Apple for years to come by imploding Microsoft's margins. Between cheap Appstore apps on mobile devices and Google giving away their increasingly-capable apps for free on both desktop and mobile devices, Redmond is gonna get crushed.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of clowns.
 
Unless you need to just view or make simple alterations to an existing spreadsheet, in that case Numbers is fine 90%+ of the time.

Except compatibility, which still sucks. For all the features and the formats people use most, Office is still boss.
 
Surface didn't just fail as a tablet but it's now destroying a key Microsoft brand.

Keep office Surface only - lose money. Put Office on iOS - make big money. Simple.

May now be a bit too late as so many people have already realised they can get by without Office.
 
And if the updated Office for Mac STILL doesn't sync with my iPhone, they can keep it!
 
It took them this long to realize this? Yes, keeping your software away from a potential market of millions will result in a loss of potential revenue. Groundbreaking! They need to get back to their roots as a software company and stop trying to create all these anti-Apple campaigns as they're clearly not working. Even Samsung had a recent commercial that was void of any Apple bashing... they just focused on the highlights of their own products without bashing the competition.

Bingo. This. Office should have been one of the first apps available for the iPad when they came out. By now, ME would have sold millions and millions of copies of it and it would have been an App Store staple. Instead, most of us have moved on and are very content with whatever other solution we found.

Also agree on MS trying to be apple. Just stick to business software and stuff like that. All of a spudded they decided to be a hardware company and their hardware options are NOT very intriguing. Sorry.
 
If Numbers continues to get updated and improved there will be no reason most people need Microsoft for anything. Sadly Numbers just doesn't have the power of Excel yet. When it does I'll gladly drop the last of the Microsoft bloat.
 
Yes, for all the talk about how tablets are replacing laptops, they are in reality a poor substitute. Greasy finder smudges, keyboards that obscure screens, and no USB ports.

:)

What about a Surface with a typecover? :cool:

Wait, I forgot it is crap, according to iPad users than never really used a Surface and are afraid of finding that iPad is not "Perfect" and "better in All ways" ... :rolleyes:
 
Most of Microsoft's products generally aren't bad, they just happen to have a bad timing for what they offer.

"Too little too late".

The Zune, Windows Phone, Surface, all that stuff could have been successful it they were released earlier.

But by being so late to the party, Microsoft allows small competitors to slowly grow into decent competitors, and Microsoft's expertise and cash don't offer them a significant edge as if they started competing with small competitors from the start.

Same for the news of OneNote finally being released for Mac and MS thinking about acquiring Evernote. They could have been competitive with Evernote from the start, with similar platforms and timing, but instead they ignored them and let them grow until they were a serious threat to their products.

If Office for iOS/Android ends up not being very popular because people are already comfortable with free alternatives such as iWork/Google Drive, I'm not going to feel bad for MS. Not a single bit.

So much truth in this post
 
If Numbers continues to get updated and improved there will be no reason most people need Microsoft for anything. Sadly Numbers just doesn't have the power of Excel yet. When it does I'll gladly drop the last of the Microsoft bloat.

Numbers will never be as good as Excel.
 
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