Microsoft patent win over Google

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  1. inscrewtable macrumors 68000


    Oct 9, 2010

    Wonderful irony, Google buy Motorola for their patent cache and then suffers patent infringement agony.
  2. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    agony? Microsoft just wants a licence fee... Compared that to Apple who wants to wipe out all competition and prevent them from selling anything with rounded corners...
  3. dhussey111 macrumors newbie

    Sep 22, 2012
    the link is not opening i want to read the article.. i can not really understand what really happens?
  4. Gav2k macrumors G3


    Jul 24, 2009
    Microsoft defeats Google over a third patent in Germany

    20 September 2012 Last updated at 20:16 GMT
    Google and Microsoft have both won patent cases against each other in Germany
    Microsoft has scored another patent victory over Google's Motorola unit.

    A German court ruled that several Motorola tablets and phones had infringed a method for apps to handle different kinds of user input.

    Samsung, HTC and others pay a licence to use the technology, but Motorola had resisted.

    Google now faces additional sales restrictions on its products in Germany unless it makes significant changes to its Android operating system.

    It marks the third lawsuit Microsoft has won over Google in recent months in the country.

    "We're pleased this decision builds on previous rulings in Germany that have already found Motorola is broadly infringing Microsoft's intellectual property," said Microsoft's deputy general counsel David Howard.

    "We will continue to enforce injunctions against Motorola products in Germany and hope Motorola will join other Android device makers by taking a licence to Microsoft's patented inventions."

    A statement from Google said: "We are waiting for the written decision and are evaluating our options, including an appeal."

    Software layer
    The patent in the latest case notes that handsets are too small to "accommodate a full character keyboard" leading to a need for different ways for a user to input data.

    It describes the use of on-screen letter and numeric keyboards; handwriting and drawing interfaces; and voice recognition.

    It then goes on to describe a way a layer of software could sit between these input mechanisms and a device's apps. The software is used to translate the data signals into a single language that the apps can understand.

    The advantage is that app developers do not need to write instructions for their products to work out how to interpret the different input mechanisms, making it easier for them to create new programs.

    Unlike other claims in other intellectual property lawsuits - such as Apple's allegation that Motorola had copied its bounceback list feature - the technology in this case relates to an underlying feature of Android rather than a visual flourish.

    It might therefore be harder for Google to issue a software update to work around the issue rather than to agree to pay a licence.

    Symbolic gesture
    Microsoft now has the option of pursuing a sales ban or recall for which it must lay down a multi-million euro bond.

    It would risk forfeiting the cash if it lost the case on appeal and had to compensate Google for lost sales.

    However, any such move would be symbolic in nature since it has already forced Motorola products off German store shelves after winning earlier cases involving file system and text messaging patents.

    Google bought Motorola to bolster its patent portfolio, but the move has drawn it into lawsuits
    The legal action has not been one-sided.

    In May Google won the right to prevent Germany's stores from selling Microsoft's Xbox 360 games consoles, the Windows 7 operating system, the Internet Explorer browser and Windows Media Player.

    However, the search firm has not been able to enforce a ban because a US judge intervened.

    He wants to weigh up Microsoft's claim that Google had demanded an unreasonable licence fee for the H.264 video patents at the heart of the case.

    Google is obliged to offer its technologies to everyone in return for a "reasonable" fee after accepting they were critical to the use of the video encoding format.

    The case is set to go to trial on 13 November. Microsoft has said it would pay a licence for the technology if a "fair" price was set.
  5. Michael Goff macrumors G5

    Michael Goff

    Jul 5, 2012
  6. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Or coincidence. ;)

    Google will lose this sort of case again in the future. Every corporation will, and buying up patents won't prevent it!
  7. dhussey111 macrumors newbie

    Sep 22, 2012
    Thanks buddy for posting the article here.. They should get be permitted first by Microsoft..
  8. LorenK macrumors 6502

    Dec 26, 2007
    When you learn something about design patents, you will understand that Samsung doesn't have the right to just copy Apple's designs and market them as their own. Apple is and was not trying to wipe out the competition, just prevent the competition from using Apple's intellectual property.
  9. dhussey111 macrumors newbie

    Sep 22, 2012
    yes that's 100% true..
  10. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    They didn't copy apple's designs, a rectangle with rounded corners was invented before Apple was a company. How do you patent a shape? Take advantage of an overflowing patent office and ram stuff through multiple times.

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