iWorks apps for 9 where expensive enough for me and do their job just finemight check those office apps out for viewing purposes just because
Really? You have over 400 Euros into the device and 27 is on the verge of being too expensive? Sure.
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Microsoft Paying Apple 30-Percent Cut on In-App Office 365 Subscription Purchases
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Really? You have over 400 Euros into the device and 27 is on the verge of being too expensive? Sure.
I'm going to wait and see on office for iPad. I rely heavily on office and it is really the last missing peice for making my ipad productive.
But i hate the subscription model. I even have access to the student version of office 365 and i am still hesitant. I just hate the idea that I'll look up and find i can't edit some key document for work because woops i forgot to pay my rental fee to microsoft...Also i already have a regular license for office that will probably last me the next 4 years. So I'd be paying $80 to rent office on the ipad. May still be worth it and it looks like microsoft did a good job with the software but still not instant buy for me.
I'm hopeful (maybe just wishful thinking) that Microsoft will offer an ipad only version of the subscription. Say $20 per app or $50/year for all three. I can't be the only one interested in office for ipad who has no need for the 365 suite for desktop.
Also i hope this isn't considered in poor taste but if you buy the student subscription will it stop working when you are no longer a student?
But i hate the subscription model. I even have access to the student version of office 365 and i am still hesitant. I just hate the idea that I'll look up and find i can't edit some key document for work because woops i forgot to pay my rental fee to microsoft...Also i already have a regular license for office that will probably last me the next 4 years. So I'd be paying $80 to rent office on the ipad. May still be worth it and it looks like microsoft did a good job with the software but still not instant buy for me.
I'm hopeful (maybe just wishful thinking) that Microsoft will offer an ipad only version of the subscription. Say $20 per app or $50/year for all three. I can't be the only one interested in office for ipad who has no need for the 365 suite for desktop.
Also i hope this isn't considered in poor taste but if you buy the student subscription will it stop working when you are no longer a student?
Everyone that hasn't paid for it, I would guess. For the same price as Office, you get more licenses, can share it with family members, and can upgrade to any version when it releases for free.
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This summer.
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Costs more than full on office.
It is franking 10 dollar per device for year (5 PC or Mac + 5 Mobile devices), if this is too much for you, then MacDonald is also too much for you. Seriously, just give up one pizza per month, then you have the money for the subscription
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Everything I need to do in an "Office Suite" app is covered with iWork. Plus I can open, edit, save an Office file easily & share it with other Office Suite users from my iMac , iPhone & iPad So, why do I need MSOff app + subscription?
Everything I need to do in an "Office Suite" app is covered with iWork. Plus I can open, edit, save an Office file easily & share it with other Office Suite users from my iMac , iPhone & iPad So, why do I need MSOff app + subscription?
Most of the people I know are allergic to subscription based software and I can understand it. When I buy stuff, I buy it as a whole, in cash, so that I actually own it and never have to think about it ever again. I don't like the idea of thousand little things sucking money off my bank account, it's too easy to lose track.
Strange logic. It isn't how much you pay, but whether you get value for what you pay that matters.
Imagine if every object carried a subscription fee.
Want to keep drinking out of your coffee mug? That will just be a nominal 1¢ per sip. Wait! You just filled it and then your subscription ran out so you can't finish your coffee?! Bummer dude - suck it up.
Want to keep wearing your favorite Sponge Bob underwear? Cough up $1 per week or you're going commando kiddo.
Same goes for every object you rent. No ownership in the future. EULA for everything says you don't own anything, you lease it. And if the company wants they can remotely disable it. That will be embarrassing when you're in the middle of a big office presentation and your cloths disappear!!! But we'll all have fun laughing at you!
Suck didn't pay his weekly license! Ha-ha-ha!Makes sense
Microsoft pays this only if the customer buys Office 365 from within the app. Hence they are pushing people to subscribe first and then download the apps. The subscription lets you use it on up to 5 devices including Macs and PCs so it can be a reasonable deal for some, but it would have been nice if they offered an "in between" deal for those who just need it on the iPad.
Microsoft pays this only if the customer buys Office 365 from within the app. Hence they are pushing people to subscribe first and then download the apps. The subscription lets you use it on up to 5 devices including Macs and PCs so it can be a reasonable deal for some, but it would have been nice if they offered an "in between" deal for those who just need it on the iPad.
Throw away money
The functionality of office productivity applications hasn't changed for 20 years. I laugh at those who continue to pay subscription fees when free applications like LibreOffice are available. My only guess at the motivation of these subscribers is that throwing away money must feel good.
The functionality of office productivity applications hasn't changed for 20 years. I laugh at those who continue to pay subscription fees when free applications like LibreOffice are available. My only guess at the motivation of these subscribers is that throwing away money must feel good.
But I could instead just not use Office and not give up that pizza. Also, maybe more importantly, the idea of Office phoning home to Microsoft all the time to verify itself stinks.
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Or Office '04. The old Offices are actually better because they won't create anything incompatible with the old ones all the corporations use.
This doesn't hold true for everyone. I just saved the two documents I was working on in Excel on my Mac and tried opening them in Numbers. The first one was truncated at 65,535 rows (There are approximately 750,000 rows in the spreadsheet), and the second one wouldn't open at all (password protected cells + unsupported features). These aren't files I created either, so I need them to work. Excel is the defacto standard, and unless you're doing basic things the iWorks apps aren't going to cut it.
is this really so hard to understand? apple isnt making money off iwork anymore. on office however, they are making money.
Fantastic deal for Apple
Wow, huge win for Apple here. Microsoft didn't have to sell subscriptions via the iPad, and certainly they will sell some, maybe even a lot. However many it is it's all extra-sweet money for Apple, as to the extent that people chose Office over iWork they'll at least get paid something. Pretty funny since they're not getting paid directly for iWork!
Apple has to be very happy about just having Office available in general too, as while they might prefer everyone used iWork, for those who insist on Office it enables additional iPad sales, which is what Apple really cares about.
(Yes, it's not radical that Microsoft is paying the same 30% everyone else is, but again this is big news because they didn't have to allow iPad purchases.)
Wow, huge win for Apple here. Microsoft didn't have to sell subscriptions via the iPad, and certainly they will sell some, maybe even a lot. However many it is it's all extra-sweet money for Apple, as to the extent that people chose Office over iWork they'll at least get paid something. Pretty funny since they're not getting paid directly for iWork!
Apple has to be very happy about just having Office available in general too, as while they might prefer everyone used iWork, for those who insist on Office it enables additional iPad sales, which is what Apple really cares about.
(Yes, it's not radical that Microsoft is paying the same 30% everyone else is, but again this is big news because they didn't have to allow iPad purchases.)
I've used libre office and open office for 2 years .It became frustrating to use after time because there are compatibly issues with docx documents( open office doesn't even support it). Especially when editing them. I often had to save my documents as word 2003. And their version of excel is atrocious. The functionality just isn't the same as ms office. I finally broke down and subscribed to office 365 last month.
The point I'd make here is that the vast majority of people are doing basic things. I have yet to receive an Excel spreadsheet of the size you describe, and not a one that I can recall including even a single calculation. And I'm talking about hundreds and hundreds of Excel files over a period of decades.
Imagine if every object carried a subscription fee.
Want to keep drinking out of your coffee mug? That will just be a nominal 1¢ per sip. Wait! You just filled it and then your subscription ran out so you can't finish your coffee?! Bummer dude - suck it up.
Want to keep wearing your favorite Sponge Bob underwear? Cough up $1 per week or you're going commando kiddo.
Same goes for every object you rent. No ownership in the future. EULA for everything says you don't own anything, you lease it. And if the company wants they can remotely disable it. That will be embarrassing when you're in the middle of a big office presentation and your cloths disappear!!! But we'll all have fun laughing at you!
People have no problem with magazine or newspaper subscription, but cannot accept software subscription. People have no problem of shelving $700+ for a new iPhone annually for the new features, but cannot accept software subscription.
Seriously, software subscription is not new idea and it is not going away. The entire industry is shift away from old method to subscription method.
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The value is here, you just do not see it. I have loads of problem when converting Pages documents to .docx documents for report submission. Charts aren't displayed correctly, objects (arrows, box) aren't even show up.
I rather pay for $100 per year than suffering with all short of compatibility problems. Beside, I always gets new version automatically.
Sign of weakness
This is a sign of weakness for Microsoft. They spent tons of money writing the programs, giving them away for free, and sharing 30% of all in app purchases with Apple.
The old Microsoft would have charged Apple for the privilege of getting MS software on their platforms.
This is a sign of weakness for Microsoft. They spent tons of money writing the programs, giving them away for free, and sharing 30% of all in app purchases with Apple.
The old Microsoft would have charged Apple for the privilege of getting MS software on their platforms.
Everyone knows the corporate world is great at keeping up with essential Office upgrades.
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You decide value for everyone? It must be nice to have such powers.
For dedicated users, $100 could be a bargain. For light or occasional users, $100 is likely to be too much. To use your own analogy, I would get no value from a McDonald's hamburger if they gave them away for free, because I simply don't eat that stuff. I feel more or less the same way about Office. Value propositions are individual things, not something someone can dictate.
The fundamental issue with subscriptions is the incentive model...
I think by focusing on the licensing cost, everyone is missing the bigger picture of what a subscription model means to software quality: In the current model, a person will upgrade their version of Office or Creative Suite because the new version has new features they want, or is better, or supports the new OS, or at least has been designed to use a new format that everyone wants to be able to read.
The subscription model is the opposite - you are paying them every month to NOT take away your software. You are paying them to be able to edit your word documents, etc. So even if the next version of Office is worse, what are you gonna do? Stop paying and have your copy immediately go inactive?
And suppose a new version only works with Windows 8 or Mavericks, and you have an older system. Now what? Is it worth replacing all your hardware so you don't lose the ability to edit your Word documents?
This is the opposite of competition - it's more like a protection racket. Ultimately, they are targeting an audience that MUST HAVE their software for business reasons.
I think by focusing on the licensing cost, everyone is missing the bigger picture of what a subscription model means to software quality: In the current model, a person will upgrade their version of Office or Creative Suite because the new version has new features they want, or is better, or supports the new OS, or at least has been designed to use a new format that everyone wants to be able to read.
The subscription model is the opposite - you are paying them every month to NOT take away your software. You are paying them to be able to edit your word documents, etc. So even if the next version of Office is worse, what are you gonna do? Stop paying and have your copy immediately go inactive?
And suppose a new version only works with Windows 8 or Mavericks, and you have an older system. Now what? Is it worth replacing all your hardware so you don't lose the ability to edit your Word documents?
This is the opposite of competition - it's more like a protection racket. Ultimately, they are targeting an audience that MUST HAVE their software for business reasons.