12 inch or 14 inch lol?I miss good old Explorer on the Mac many years ago. Really was an amazing browser at the time. I boot up my old iBook every now and then and see what sites still work with it. Not many.![]()
12 inch or 14 inch lol?I miss good old Explorer on the Mac many years ago. Really was an amazing browser at the time. I boot up my old iBook every now and then and see what sites still work with it. Not many.![]()
I'm not sure how much is still relevant 3 years later, but
Are you seriously going to call sync a privacy violation? That's no different than using iCloud to store files, or iMessage.
One advantage of the new browser that Microsoft is promoting is that Edge will have an IE mode for supporting legacy sites.
But ... why? I can't imagine what this browser can do that Safari or Chrome can't ... and I'm not sure who the user base is.
Semi-tangential observation: I think it's somewhat sloppy that the dock in the macOS screenshot above includes Microsoft Office apps that do not have the most up-to-date icons. You would think that a video coming from Microsoft itself would highlight the newest versions of its own flagship products.
That screenshot serves as a great "nutshell" reminder of some of the fundamental differences between Apple and Microsoft.
MS has no mobile platform so they're forced to adopt Chromium to expand their services via the browser. Whether it'll work or not is a different question. I can say it's far better than Edge.But ... why? I can't imagine what this browser can do that Safari or Chrome can't ... and I'm not sure who the user base is.
Why should Microsoft do Apple's job? If Apple's iWork apps can't work properly with third-party files, it's on Apple to fix this.I would rather Microsoft spend the effort for something else... Maybe compatibility for iWork files with Office apps? Gonna be way much more useful/helpful
Agreed, the general population clearly doesn't mind Google's data hegemony. But I think some do view Microsoft as a more trustworthy company than Google. Those few people who care might prefer Edge. That said, while I generally view Microsoft as more privacy-oriented than Google, I view Apple as even more so and thus would not move to Edge from Safari.
(Relatedly, my general view on third-party apps is that unless there is a compelling "industry standard" case - as there is with Microsoft Word, for example - I would always rather use an Apple default app. By virtue of buying a Mac, iPhone, iPad, etc. I paid a serious premium to be able to [legitimately] use Apple's apps!)
Sadly, I believe you're right. I think the average person knows that something's up with Google but has not looked any further into the issue.I would say the general population not minding is based on them not understanding the scope and how invasive Google's data practices are.
I like the new icons a lot more than the old ones!given how awful the new icons are I'd want to include the old ones instead if it were me![]()
Semi-tangential observation: I think it's somewhat sloppy that the dock in the macOS screenshot above includes Microsoft Office apps that do not have the most up-to-date icons. You would think that a video coming from Microsoft itself would highlight the newest versions of its own flagship products.
That screenshot serves as a great "nutshell" reminder of some of the fundamental differences between Apple and Microsoft.
Please read the linked article. What I'm talking about is advertising IDs and Microsoft-accessible data collection that is turned on by default at the system level. It has nothing to do with syncing and file storage.
Monoculture is great because it simplifies website creation.
What limits do you have with webkit and html5?
Do you prefer Edge to be able to enter M$, Chrome to invite Google, ...?
Why variety, which forces you to install several browsers which all do penetrate your OS?
Very common in healthcare. Multiple large hospital systems, as recently as last year, standardized on Windows 7 and IE 11 as the only option for most workers.
Gosh, did no-one learn from the years of IE's dominance?
When entire Internet depends on a single product, whomever controls the product controls the Internet! Microsoft did it with IE and things like ActiveX, Google is doing it with Chromium and adblocking.
Having dealt for years with hipaa, hitrust, and hitech regulations I can sadly say this would not be related to any violation or potential violation. The main rationale is that this is just a viewer of protected information. The regulations would only require that nothing be saved to the desktop without bona fide business use, that no one looks over their shoulder, and that they only have access to records that they are needing at the point they need them only.This is horrifying, and a borderline HIPPA violation (HIPPA at the very least implies a duty to safeguard records).
No, we don't. We've had that for years and the general experience has sucked. 99% of users do NOT care at all, and developers just want web browsers to work the same.We really need more browsers NOT built on Chromium - which is slowly becoming more and more enveloped by the Google ecosystem
The dev beta on Windows 10 is really fast. Better than Chrome.
I'm sure Safari will remain superior on Mac, but nice they're making it available across various platforms.
Why should the definitive suite provide compatibility with the lesser suite?Whenever I can use Safari, I use Safari.
Whenever I cant, I use Chrome.
I would rather Microsoft spend the effort for something else... Maybe compatibility for iWork files with Office apps? Gonna be way much more useful/helpful
Not everything has a keyboard shortcut. The browsers are better than they used to be but they are still different enough in basic design to be annoying.
I'm not attached to any specific UX - I freely switch between MacOS and Windows as well as Chrome, Safari, IE, and Firefox. It has been a while since I've used Solaris and Linux but that's due to projects rather than preferences. Basic functionality and design language should be consistent on a platform. I don't want to go back to the days where applications used different key strokes for the same functions.The design differences exist because people have different philosophies of how the software should work and how you as the user should interact with it. What would be the point of "alternate browsers" if you're going to make them all that similar? And if you're so attached to a specific UX, I don't understand why you would want to change browsers so often.
Firefox, at least, lets the user change the toobar buttons and their locations to suit them. So you could rearrange Firefox to match Chrome's layout.
Basic functionality and design language should be consistent on a platform. I don't want to go back to the days where applications used different key strokes for the same functions.
I never got bent out of shape. I just said that I thought it was a good thing that the two browsers were similar. You wanted to make it an issue.They are consistent? Hence me saying instead of getting all bent out of shape that a toolbar button is not where you expect it you should just use keyboard shortcuts. Cmd (or ctrl on Win/Linux)-t = new tab, on every browser. F5 = Refresh (or [pri. modifier]-r can be used, too). Cmd-L = change focus to Address Bar for typing -- you know that shortcut dates back to Netscape Navigator? And browser makers have continued to follow it even though most users would never think L for Location. I just now opened Internet Explorer, and used ctrl-b to open my Favorites window -- even though "Bookmark" is a Netscape term and Microsoft has always called them Favorites.
You decided that I needed to be educated. So please tell me, what is the standard keyboard shortcut to change the proxy settings used by the browser? The shortcut for the cache control dialog box would be helpful as well.
Your point, that recapcha can be a pain, is valid, different, and a lesser problem. My point is that Safari doesn’t reliably load recapcha content, crippling the ability to use websites that use it. I can deal with a bunch of clicks if I must, but I have to start all over again with a different browser if I can’t login or register at a site because Safari can’t handle current code.