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Microsoft today announced the launch of a beta version of Messenger for Mac 8, bringing support for audio and video calls with Windows Live contacts.
Have you have ever wanted to do an audio call or a video call from your Mac with a contact on the Windows Live network? Starting today you can! Using your Live ID, Messenger for Mac users can now make AV calls to each other. Messenger for Mac 8 is also the first and only Mac-desktop client that can do calls with Windows Live Messenger 2009.

The company notes that the release has been a long time coming due to significant protocol changes required for compatibility with Windows Live and remains a beta version because of several "finishing touches" still required.

Messenger for Mac 8 will see its official release later this year alongside Office for Mac 2011.

Article Link: Microsoft Releases Messenger for Mac 8 Beta
 

roadbloc

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Aug 24, 2009
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And it seems, after all that hype, MSN Messenger 8 is just another slow, bloated, buggy*, featureless pile of bile. It has video, big deal. So will Adium soon.

Come on MS! To make a MSN for mac you need to:
  • Support ALL of the features that the Windows version has
  • Support Growl
  • Stop the bloatedness, my fans were blowing after only 10 mins of video use!
  • Make it look like Mac. This is more Gnome.

*I know it's a beta, but I cannot imagine the real thing being any better.
 

Kissaragi

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Nov 16, 2006
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And it seems, after all that hype, MSN Messenger 8 is just another slow, bloated, buggy*, featureless pile of bile. It has video, big deal. So will Adium soon.

Come on MS! To make a MSN for mac you need to:
  • Support ALL of the features that the Windows version has
  • Support Growl
  • Stop the bloatedness, my fans were blowing after only 10 mins of video use!
  • Make it look like Mac. This is more Gnome.

*I know it's a beta, but I cannot imagine the real thing being any better.

When adium actually has video (its been soon on adium for as long as mac messenger) then i may be willing to switch. Until then i like my slow, bloated and buggy messenger for mac
 

serdiouk

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Jun 22, 2009
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Who cares?

I can call and video conference with MSN LIVE clients from Yahoo Messenger.
 

H$R

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Apr 1, 2008
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Looking forward to it..though I switched over to Skype for calling/video years ago, after MSN Messenger (also on Windows) just never worked as it should. But I still prefer the MSN Messenger now being on the Mac for just messaging. (Though only like 10 friends still use it, everyone else is chatting through Facebook these days)

I tried, Adium, Mercury and a few other messengers. But I just never liked them (speaking of design). Sure it could be more Mac like, but I prefer it for the things it does well.
 

mcic1984

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Dec 9, 2002
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I know, I know it's a beta version, but for a two years wait I found it a little buggy for my tastes.

• Read the FAQ first – the things that it said doesn't work, doesn't work (no surprises there) – e.g. no custom emoticons, no custom profile pictures – lots of existing features are broken.

• It crashed shortly after loading, so I deleted all Messenger files from ~/Library/ and started from scratch – no difference.

• The audio/video chat DOES work, cross-platform too (incredible! – only after Skype, Yahoo, AIM/iChat, and all flash-based web videos out there) but it is slightly buggy: It crashed Mac OS X (requiring a restart by pressing and holding the power button) one of the times I tried launching the chats from the Mac side. Also, the full-screen chat stretches/distorts the image for those people who do not have a wide-screen webcam / one matching the dimensions of your monitor; while your own chat window is displayed as a square image, for those unlucky enough to have an image with a ratio of 1:1.

Still no word on any other features:

• Handwriting = Nope.
• Logging in from two machines at the same time = Nope.
• Messenger Games = Nope.
• Groups (introduced in the latest Windows Live Messenger) = Nope.

But still... it's a start. Still somewhat glad to know that some work is being put into Messenger, but somehow, I feel the developers behind Messenger:Mac won't be proud that they would release such an incomplete work to the public...
 

The_Roo

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Dec 18, 2003
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Seems incredibly buggy.

I installed it on my laptop and my daughters.

Can't add a contact on either computer. They add but are not displayed in the contact list. Video chat doesn't seem to work.

:mad:
 

emmab2006

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Mar 16, 2008
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Stoke on trent
Also , Bug I have noticed is Display Pictures, you cant change them , tried removing the com.microsoft.Messenger.plist , same issue ,, still going to keep it ... just hope that Microsoft don't screw us like they did last time with Office 2008 and not include Macro's !
 

Stella

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Apr 21, 2003
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After years of promises and excuses, MS actually, finally, add audio + video.

Aduim are struggling developers.. video support will take a while :-(
 

jgbhardy

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Oct 15, 2008
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A/V isn't working

A/V wont work for me for some reason people just don't get my requests and they can't see whether I have a webcam so they can't start the conversation. So this seems like a complete let down. Especially with no display pictures or custom emoticons!
What a let down. I guess it back to the old one at least I gain some features using that :rolleyes: Yes I know its Beta, but one that has taken 2 years!!!!!!
 

mcic1984

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Dec 9, 2002
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There are groups.
Go to contacts>Sort contacts by> Groups.

It isn't bad. Seems to be working fine, but I will probably stick with adium.

No, that's not the feature I was referring to.

Groups is a new feature added in Windows Live Messenger 2009 (version 14); in the Windows version, they renamed what is formerly known as Groups into 'Categories'.

Groups in WLM2009 allow users to have group conversations with other members – they're like multi-user chats with preselected groups. Linked with online Windows Live services, they allow sharing pictures and files with users. The Mac version doesn't support any of these.
 

akm3

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Nov 15, 2007
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Will this let you hook into a Communicator 2007 server and use OCS to chat with Communicator users on a business network?

Or is this just 'MSN / Windows Live'

ARE there any OCS communicators with audio/video that can hook into a corporate communicator server?
 

MartiNZ

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Apr 10, 2008
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Can you say buggy?

Yes, I can say buggy. I guess maybe the main thing they're wanting tested is the video - nothing else seems any different except for what they somehow managed to break. Interface still not quite standard and even looks a little worse.
 

Cabbit

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Jan 30, 2006
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Well its still carbon too which is a shame with the time spent i would have thought a cocoa rewrite was in the works.
 

mabaker

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Jan 19, 2008
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It took them 2 years to implement video. Bravo. In 2014 they will have the Growl feature there.

Just don’t bother, really. MSN for Mac is a big FU from MS to the Mac community. Even tho I appreciate what the guys at Mac BU are doing it’s unfortunately not nearly enough.
 
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