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Microsoft Says Windows Laptops With Snapdragon X Elite Will Be Faster Than M3 MacBook Air
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I have a bad feeling like it's closer as in, approaching infinity closer. Apple's one and only public comment on the matter is that it's "up to Microsoft" but Boot Camp has been an afterthought for Apple for a very long time now.
I will be shocked if it comes back.
Purely FWIW, the Snapdragon will have 12 cores; the M3 has 8. So on multicore, it's 21% faster with 50% more cores. I'm not sure that's the win they think it is.
You beat me to it. And I doubt they will match Apple Silcone on those respects. Props to them if they do though. More real competition is a good thing.
More cores is the new “just throw more power at it” (looking at you Intel) in the short term thinking computer space.
What?
If I'm not mistaken Microsoft is taking these figures from the 80W TDP variant or whatever of the Snapdragon Elite X.
So they're boasting that SD's new 80W chip is slightly faster than a 22W M3. Do they want to highlight that fact?
If I'm not mistaken Microsoft is taking these figures from the 80W TDP variant or whatever of the Snapdragon Elite X.
So they're boasting that SD's new 80W chip is slightly faster than a 22W M3. Do they want to highlight that fact?
How you know it's not the 23W version of Snapdragon X Elite?
It's almost like people forgot how Apple switched from Intel to ARM.
How emulation works on Arm
Learn how emulation for x86 and x64 apps makes the rich ecosystem of existing Win32 apps available on Arm devices.
learn.microsoft.com
I thought I read in another article that they used the 80W variant to make this same comparison. I could be wrong though
I cant help it but nearly nobody mentions it correctly except 2 or 3 press people.
When Qualcomm says 23 or 80Watt it is the full machine and not just the SOC.
I guess we will se when it finally gets released.
Example:
“We may also now have a hint at battery life, too: JuanBagnell says Qualcomm told him the entire laptop is “rated to operate at around 20-24 watts.”
www.theverge.com
If it is the full machine at 23W call me even more impressed by that version of the demo machine.
When Qualcomm says 23 or 80Watt it is the full machine and not just the SOC.
I guess we will se when it finally gets released.
Example:
“We may also now have a hint at battery life, too: JuanBagnell says Qualcomm told him the entire laptop is “rated to operate at around 20-24 watts.”
Qualcomm quietly demos Baldur’s Gate 3 and Control on Snapdragon X Elite laptops
They look good — but not necessarily “playable” yet?
www.theverge.com
If it is the full machine at 23W call me even more impressed by that version of the demo machine.
A different article. I'm probably wrong actually. Anyway when Microsoft says 23 or 80W TDP they mean the whole system TDP. And the 80W doesn't seem that much more powerful than the 23W. Looks like a real M3 contender
Plot twist: they won’t.
They could not do it 4 years ago, why should anyone expect them to bring something cool now?
Did anyone remember b$ Intel, NVIDIA, AMD and Microsoft were spreading when M1 came out?
“It won’t compete”, “Toy machines”, “Mobile processor”.
Still they could not come up with even a SINGLE IDEA of how to compete with Apple in that field.
16 hours of battery life on my M1 Air. Yet to see a single Windows laptop that can do this at same firepower (I mean watching movies, browsing websites, editing videos, photos, making music. Not just random MS Office documents work).
Also it is silent. Completely silent.
Windows clunkers are never silent because, apart from highly inefficient telemetry collecting OS these laptops are based on Intel or AMD CPUs. Qualcomm won’t change anything with exception that it will provide option to run Android apps natively (Android apps…🤣 ). Qualcomm processors are a joke, highly inefficient and most iterations cannot even compare to ancient A12 in real life use in apps.
Competitors have already lost. Because they didn’t even try to fight. It does not work like that when one side waves white flag and after accepting the loss tells “tomorrow oppression will end!”
They could not do it 4 years ago, why should anyone expect them to bring something cool now?
Did anyone remember b$ Intel, NVIDIA, AMD and Microsoft were spreading when M1 came out?
“It won’t compete”, “Toy machines”, “Mobile processor”.
Still they could not come up with even a SINGLE IDEA of how to compete with Apple in that field.
16 hours of battery life on my M1 Air. Yet to see a single Windows laptop that can do this at same firepower (I mean watching movies, browsing websites, editing videos, photos, making music. Not just random MS Office documents work).
Also it is silent. Completely silent.
Windows clunkers are never silent because, apart from highly inefficient telemetry collecting OS these laptops are based on Intel or AMD CPUs. Qualcomm won’t change anything with exception that it will provide option to run Android apps natively (Android apps…🤣 ). Qualcomm processors are a joke, highly inefficient and most iterations cannot even compare to ancient A12 in real life use in apps.
Competitors have already lost. Because they didn’t even try to fight. It does not work like that when one side waves white flag and after accepting the loss tells “tomorrow oppression will end!”
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well - we already have AMD and Intel, and both drink energy compared to AS for equivalent results. Yes, they can outperform Apple's chips, but only at extremes.
By the time they sell as many laptop computers as the M3 MacBook Air to end users, maybe it will make a difference and Apple will want to respond.
Yes, but nowhere was anything stated that the focus or concern of the article, test results, or even focus of the initiatives was on power efficiency. Apple is ruling that space right now. But that doesn't mean that is all that matters in the entire world of computing. Why can't there be other things to focus on? Is it because its the one thing that Apple does really good so that is all that exists?
Fixed Headline:
Snapdragon X Elite Will Be Faster While Plugged In And Drawing 57+ More Watts Than Apple's Unplugged Low End M3 MacBook Air
Who needs an unplugged Apple laptop that runs 18 hours when you can have an X Elite laptop that runs slower unplugged and for only 6 hours?Qualcomm didn't release the full specs or allow access for a reason.
"Reporters were not allowed to touch the laptops, perform the tests, or examine the Windows settings menu or other configurations. That means that we can’t say with utter certainty that there wasn’t any hanky-panky going on behind the scenes, but everything appeared aboveboard."
"Qualcomm's test setup. Qualcomm allowed reporters access to about a dozen reference machines in a pair of configurations: Configuration A had an 80W TDP, with a 3840x2160p display and an 87Wh battery. Configuration B was slightly thinner, with a 23W TDP [Thermal Design Power] and a 2880×1800 OLED display."
Even this article's title below is misleading. Tested? No, it wasn't tested, IT WAS DEMOED!
Tested: Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite CPU looks like a legit Intel rival
Qualcomm allowed reporters to supervise a benchmarking session testing the Snapdragon X Elite CPU platform, then compare them to other laptops. It's already among the fastest PC processors.
www.pcworld.com
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Windows 11 ARM actually runs really well in Parallels on an M-series machine 😅
It's almost like people forgot how Apple switched from Intel to ARM.
How emulation works on Arm
Learn how emulation for x86 and x64 apps makes the rich ecosystem of existing Win32 apps available on Arm devices.learn.microsoft.com
Except I've used ARM Windows before. It's beyond terrible. With slight improvements in previous years. Windows x86 ARM emulation isn't great. Where Rosetta 2 (Apple) is actually a lot better. (but even that is far from perfect)
Performance wise x86 emulation on ARM Windows is about a 70-80% loss. Where Rosetta 2 is a 20-30% loss. So, more powerful hardware in a less optimized OS... The MacBook is still going to beat any Windows ARM Laptop with ease.
And that's excluding all ARM specific software. On M-Mac that's now around 80% of the software. On Windows.. well.. 1% and that is a generous estimation.
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I doubt Apple would ever respond to practically anyone unless forced. They are very much focused on "being the lead" which means you only talk about your own stuff and almost entirely ignore that anyone else exists 🤣 ....I mean other than showing vague slides with how much "better" they are.
While this could indicate more momentum with MS being in the ARM space, I doubt this even will lead to much for anyone. I only hope that MS does commit more to ARM and does it quickly to push for more competition and innovation across the entire mainstream technology spectrum