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Microsoft Silverlight Supports Mac
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I would have no issues supporting an alternate player if...big IF...if it wasn't for the fact that Microsoft has conflicting agendas. this is the sole reason what I've always been a proponent of breaking them up. Right now if they want this thing to become a standard they need to support everyone. Down the road if it does take over the lions share of the market MS will simply drop support for *nix and OS X because MS's bread and butter has always and will always be Windows and Office.
the worst thing to happen to Microsoft was the outcome of the antitrust trial. they are in a position now that actually hurts more then helps. Bring back the concept of Microsoft: OS's, Microsoft: Games, Microsoft: Productivity, Microsoft: Hardware. Make them individual companies separate from each other.
the worst thing to happen to Microsoft was the outcome of the antitrust trial. they are in a position now that actually hurts more then helps. Bring back the concept of Microsoft: OS's, Microsoft: Games, Microsoft: Productivity, Microsoft: Hardware. Make them individual companies separate from each other.
In true MS fashion.
I'm never leaving my Flash, now.
No problems here...using Firefox.
well, corporations are not buying into it yet, and with Dell offering XP (due to customer demand!) as an option instead of forcing vista, i would say it's a little bust.
Which was pretty much what I suggested. Safari sometimes changes .zip files into a .dmg.
It's actually quite good on OS X unlike Flash (total garbage).
Bingo, I'm with you on that one.
BAD IDEA. That's what happened to Bell and then they became more powerful with all the baby Bells.
What is the problem or issue people have with play for sure? They still support it, and the record companies are still supporting so what is the issue?
Two questions
1. Will this replace flash? Flash is slow on my comp so that would be cool
2. Why am I getting corrupted images? Tried both Camino, Firefox, and Safari.. even tried IE but it wouldnt get the download.
1. Will this replace flash? Flash is slow on my comp so that would be cool
2. Why am I getting corrupted images? Tried both Camino, Firefox, and Safari.. even tried IE but it wouldnt get the download.
Using that definition, Windows 2000 Workstation, Windows 2000 Server, Windows XP and Windows 2003 Server were all little busts.
I wish I could fail that well. I'd be rich.
If Silverlight were to ever get near the same market share that Flash currently has, then MS would start asking themselves the question of how they can best leverage that market share into selling more Windows licences.
MS has no interest in making any cross platform applications/frameworks.
Okay, you're right in that it doesn't support desktop Linux right now (although it is .NET based, and so should be supportable via Mono). But there is a Silverlight codec available for mobile Linux devices.
These are some common misconceptions, which only tells me that we, at Adobe, need to do a little better at clarifying some of these things.
First, on the "standard" front, semantics I suppose, but the SWF format technically is a standard, just as PDF is a standard. That's why Apple can integrate both PDF and SWF standards into their own operating system and applications (Apples Print-to-pdf, and Keynotes "Export to SWF" as examples).
Proprietary: Intelligent minds can mean different things when they use the word "Proprietary", but as per my Mac's Dashboard Dictionary widget, Proprietary means "(of a product) marketed under and protected by a registered trade name". So, yeah, I guess so. Not sure what Adobe could really do about that. However, I will point out that much of the Flash Platform is open source. The Tamarin engine is the virtual machine used inside of the Flash Player, and is open sourced and contributed to Mozilla. Also it was announced that the Flex SDK, compilers, ActionScript Debuggers, and more are being released as open source under the Mozilla Public License, and the public can contribute to developing that. Which leads me to one of the most important points (and that one that I'm most excited about).
On the question of "buying" software from Adobe, actually, there are some great alternatives for developing flash applications that Adobe provides absolutely for free. There are a lot of tremendous flash applications being devoloped right now in Flex, and you can do the same completely for free in the editor of your choice with the Flex SDK. ... True, you don't get the timeline-based design tool Flash Authoring for Free, or the Robust Flex Builder for free... but considering the businesses that are currently being built atop the Platform, the price is a real bargain, and Adobe's got to make money somehow, right?
Just thought of another cross-platform technology that they killed: VBA.
I'm all for competition, but that's not what this is. This isn't going to push the state of the art. If MS follows their standard model, they'll put enough effort into the project to develop a slightly inferior product that people will use anyway because it's bundled. That's a drag on innovation-- it devalues quality and technology.
If this software innovates, it wasn't made by Microsoft...
Their software engineers aren't amateurs, but they are too isolated and are servants to the business folks, and despite what you think Microsoft doesn't know how to do business. They have a huge money engine that enables them to throw tremendous amounts of cash at problems. Sometimes something sticks to the wall and they find a new product. That's not business though, that's monkeys at the zoo.Well to me this is good news. I mean if it were Apple that was releasing a flash rival we would all be really happy. But i mean come one, Microsoft sure do know how to do business and their software engineers aren't total amateurs.
And besides, the more competition the better right?Don't we all dream to stream videos instantly with hd quality? And one thing's for sure, such a dream will be achieved sooner rather than later with a bit of competition.
I'm all for competition, but that's not what this is. This isn't going to push the state of the art. If MS follows their standard model, they'll put enough effort into the project to develop a slightly inferior product that people will use anyway because it's bundled. That's a drag on innovation-- it devalues quality and technology.
This is especially true given how bad Flash content delivery on the Mac is. Someone needs to give Adobe a kick in the butt to get up to speed, it may was well be MS.
This seems to be a Webkit (Apple) problem actually. The file is downloaded as .bz2, the expansion step is screwing up. Depending on how you downloaded, either try renaming the .bz2 file (if that's what you have) to .dmg (without double clicking first). If that doesn't mount, try renaming back to .bz2 again and manually expand.
You're comparing a Silverlight stream against QuickTime downloads, that's not a straight comparison at all. QuickTime streaming is really rather poor, that's why Apple avoid it on their own trailer site.
speaking of their promotional video, what does designing fantasy skateboards and touch-screen charts and graphs have to do with a video delivery format?????
I really don't get it. There is nothing in the promotional vid that even gets to what the hell this is.
I watched the trailers on the Fox movies example site, kinds jumpy/stuttery and unfocused.
ACK!
I really don't get it. There is nothing in the promotional vid that even gets to what the hell this is.
I watched the trailers on the Fox movies example site, kinds jumpy/stuttery and unfocused.
ACK!
well hey, some departments at microsoft can churn out a good product now and then, look at the xbox, and office has been pretty nice so far.
Maybe with mac's growing market share and microsoft constantly needing to continue some form of financial growth and so forth maybe it'll wind up being some form of motivation to ensure they make a good product and ensure it really is cross platform... Or in a few years it'll flop and everyone really will stick with flash OR it will be wmv, be cross platform, get everyone to use it, and then abandon mac support...
Maybe with mac's growing market share and microsoft constantly needing to continue some form of financial growth and so forth maybe it'll wind up being some form of motivation to ensure they make a good product and ensure it really is cross platform... Or in a few years it'll flop and everyone really will stick with flash OR it will be wmv, be cross platform, get everyone to use it, and then abandon mac support...
I hope this helps flash in that in now has legit competition, i feel like flash has been less than stellar lately.
I could really care less about Silverlight, but I do appreciate that they want to support Macs from the start - whether it works or not.
Oh just another misinformed Macrumor user. Wow that's an uncommon sight. MS never released anything that was designed to compete against Photoshop. Its only people like Mac zealots who made the comparison.