Microsoft: Stop Investigation or We Pull Out

[greatdevourer]

Has anyone noticed how, by doing this, M$ have just confirmed what the investigation was set out to check out?

 

[Counterfit]

Exactly. And there's no way to stop Exploerer or Windows MEdia Player from being present on the system. That's the difference between Apple and MS. Safari, Quicktime, both can be deleted from your system without any repercussions or destroying important resources of the operating system.

Well, there are two parts to QuickTime. The player, and the framework. The player can be deleted with few repercussions. Of course, you should have something to take its place, such as VLC or the like. The framework, however, shouldn't be deleted, as it can cause problems in many apps (Finder, iTunes, and anything else that uses the framework).

 

[LethalWolfe]

And yet nobody complains that Apple ships Safari, iChat, Quicktime, iTunes, etc with every single copy of OS X

Granted you can easily not use them with OS X, but both companies are using the same methods...

I think the problem w/MS wasn't the fact that they included things like WMP and IE, but that they used their massive position in the industry to basically dictate to computer makers what software their machines could and could not ship with. Thereby leveraging an unfair advantage for their products by forcing companies to only ship w/"MS approved" software. An Apple parallel might be if Apple contacted major retailers and said anyone who stocks MP3 players that play WMA files might experience a "shortage" of iPods during the Xmas shopping season.

In regards to iPods/iTMS Apple isn't letting anyone ride on their coattails, but they also aren't using their market position to hamper other companies attempts to build competing products either.


Lethal

 

[IJ Reilly]

I think the problem w/MS wasn't the fact that they included things like WMP and IE, but that they used their massive position in the industry to basically dictate to computer makers what software their machines could and could not ship with. Thereby leveraging an unfair advantage for their products by forcing companies to only ship w/"MS approved" software. An Apple parallel might be if Apple contacted major retailers and said anyone who stocks MP3 players that play WMA files might experience a "shortage" of iPods during the Xmas shopping season.

In regards to iPods/iTMS Apple isn't letting anyone ride on their coattails, but they also aren't using their market position to hamper other companies attempts to build competing products either.


Lethal

Yes, exactly. It's not illegal to have a monopoly, but it is illegal (under the laws of most countries) to use that monopoly to stifle competition.