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Microsoft Surface Duo Set to Arrive September 10 For $1,399
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I want an iMac Pro that folds into a MacBook Pro that folds into an iPad Pro that folds into an iPhone Max that folds into an iPhone Mini.
@AngerDanger - Do your magic and mock this up. (Hm, was that the wrong person to call out? I thought AngerDanger was the one who seems to manage to throw together comics to comment on articles with within minutes of the article going up...)
@AngerDanger - Do your magic and mock this up. (Hm, was that the wrong person to call out? I thought AngerDanger was the one who seems to manage to throw together comics to comment on articles with within minutes of the article going up...)
One of the reasons the Windows Phone ultimately failed was the lack of apps in their apology for an app store.
This thing won't suffer from that problem.
However, it does seem as it MS has realised that the mantra of Windows and ONLY Windows everywhere simply won't work any longer. Thankfully.
I will remain to be seen how serious MS is with this device. only time (plus decent availabity in lots of markets) will tell.
makes me cringe to imagine all the sysem privacy setting and bloatware you will have to remove or disable
Probably far less than in other Android installs. Microsoft are quite good in that regard especially with their Surface Devices
I was just coming here to ask the same thing. The foldable device seems to be the industry's current McGuffin, but nothing I've seen has convinced me that this form factor does anything better than or even as good as existing ones outside of a few niche use cases.
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Makes for a massive phone, or a poor tablet with A hinge/fold point in the middle of your work or media. Neat, but a “jack of all, master of non”. Trying to visualize the on-screen keyboard implementation - or do you carry a separate keyboard as well for any significant work. At least on a tablet, you can adjust the screen amount used by either app with the adjustable vertical divide. I don’t imagine being able to multi-task on this with any choice but each screen having its own app presented - versus being able to use all of one screen and 1/3 of the other for primary app. And if you could - it would be a visual train wreck having a fraction of one app on the other side of the hinge/fold.
This will go the way of Curved TV screens - sorry if you bought one of those - but that “rage” died in a hurry - try and find one now.
This will go the way of Curved TV screens - sorry if you bought one of those - but that “rage” died in a hurry - try and find one now.
Microsoft re-enters the phone market under the Android OS…
This is fantastic news indeed, especially for competition. It looks pretty good with all the Microsoft software pre-installed.
I hope Microsoft contribute to coding the Open Source aspects of Android, optimise, debug, etc.
This is fantastic news indeed, especially for competition. It looks pretty good with all the Microsoft software pre-installed.
I hope Microsoft contribute to coding the Open Source aspects of Android, optimise, debug, etc.
Wow that is way cheaper than I thought it would be. I really think this is going to be hit in corporate offices. Plus I think Microsoft has done a great job as positioning itself services wise with Android.
I think they've been pretty adamant that this is a productivity product first and foremost, phone second.
Honestly is it fair to call any smartphones phones at this point.
Microsoft is going to sell a ton of these. On the go professionals like real estate, surveyors, medical staff, construction engineers. This is an impressive volley by Microsoft that I really hope Apple does with their mini. "Mini made Max" because the mini doesn't sell well compared to the iPhone Max models so if they did this, holy crap.
I just don't see what the real-world use cases are for this. If you want an e-book, get a Kindle starting at $80 and are the world leader. If you want a tablet, iPads rule the world. If you want something more like a Surface that is a hybrid laptop and touch screen device, buy the Surface.
The price seems extremely high STARTING at $1400. You can buy a sweet PC laptop for $1400. If you need a Surface style device, but the Surface for a range of $399 to $1399 (Starting Prices). https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/compare-devices is a great comparison.
If you want a great phone that is large, it seems iPhones and Samsungs rule the world and have nice large displays for under $1400.
Again, I just don't see what features are so great about this product and to justify such a hefty price tag.
For reference, I purchased a Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 laptop last December for $1263 before tax and here are the specs:
Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2
● 9th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (2.60GHz, up to 4.50GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
● Windows 10 Home 64
● 16GB DDR4 2666MHz
● 512GB SSD PCIe
● 15.6" UHD (3840 x 2160) 500 nits, IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™ HDR 400 with IR & 720p HD Camera
● NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 Max-Q 4GB
● Fingerprint Reader
● IR & 720p HD
● Intel® AX200 Wi-Fi 6 802.11AX (2 x 2) & Bluetooth® 5.0
● 15.6" UHD (3840x2160), IPS, Anti-glare, 500nits, No touch, IR-Camera, Mic, Woven
● Next Day In-Home Repair 1-Year
The price seems extremely high STARTING at $1400. You can buy a sweet PC laptop for $1400. If you need a Surface style device, but the Surface for a range of $399 to $1399 (Starting Prices). https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/compare-devices is a great comparison.
If you want a great phone that is large, it seems iPhones and Samsungs rule the world and have nice large displays for under $1400.
Again, I just don't see what features are so great about this product and to justify such a hefty price tag.
For reference, I purchased a Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 laptop last December for $1263 before tax and here are the specs:
Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2
● 9th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (2.60GHz, up to 4.50GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
● Windows 10 Home 64
● 16GB DDR4 2666MHz
● 512GB SSD PCIe
● 15.6" UHD (3840 x 2160) 500 nits, IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™ HDR 400 with IR & 720p HD Camera
● NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 Max-Q 4GB
● Fingerprint Reader
● IR & 720p HD
● Intel® AX200 Wi-Fi 6 802.11AX (2 x 2) & Bluetooth® 5.0
● 15.6" UHD (3840x2160), IPS, Anti-glare, 500nits, No touch, IR-Camera, Mic, Woven
● Next Day In-Home Repair 1-Year
Nice device, but we shouldn't have those size bezels in 2020 on a premium phone. That bezel size is fine on budget phones. Surprised more folks aren't complaining about that.
Looking at the pictures makes me want a dual screen Kindle/Kobo/Nook. I would love to have an ebook reader that opens like a book.
Anyhow, I like this tablet. Not so much the price. Yikes!😲😲 I'll wait on a 2nd, 3rd release after early adopters have paid for the R&D built into the price.
Anyhow, I like this tablet. Not so much the price. Yikes!😲😲 I'll wait on a 2nd, 3rd release after early adopters have paid for the R&D built into the price.
I really liked my Zune. Much better than iPod in fact.
You have hit the nail on the head, IMO. I think Microsoft knows that selling into the general consumer space dominated by Apple and Android devices (from mostly Samsung in the US) is tough. But the enterprise world - where Microsoft dominates - there is a need for a mobile device that can run software important to workers and companies. Here, bezels, looks, and certain features are less important.
Many forget - at one time - the NY police department used Windows Mobile Nokias running proprietary software. They can easily go back to them with something like this that runs Android and Microsoft software. There are many, many applications like this. If you move away from the general consumer space, there is a market for the Duo.
I disagree with almost everyone. The problem here is not even the price, but the concept. ”Having 2 screens on your phone makes you more productive” seems like a false mantra, trying to scale down the experience of a computer and thinking it will be the same. Even on the iPad, I notice a huge difference between multitasking on 9.7 inch and 11 inch. This is 8.1 inches. And you don’t hold and use a solid tablet and two devices united by a hinge the same way. So it’s not a phone+tablet. I can imagine it definitely feels like a toaster-refrigerator, weird as phone, bad as tablet.
On top of that, the experience of changing apps, using combos, going fullscreen, etc. seems very complex. I can’t see a right way to make it easy, really. The concept is flawed from the beginning. The Surface (so-called) tablets have sold relatively well because they are great computers with nice extras.
On top of that, the experience of changing apps, using combos, going fullscreen, etc. seems very complex. I can’t see a right way to make it easy, really. The concept is flawed from the beginning. The Surface (so-called) tablets have sold relatively well because they are great computers with nice extras.