Microsoft to buy-out Flash from Macromedia??

Blackcat

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The Reg is pretty acurate when it comes to industry news. Here's hoping Macromedia don't want to be bought out, and Sun makes a counter offer.
 

gotohamish

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Originally posted by Blackcat
The Reg is pretty acurate when it comes to industry news. Here's hoping Macromedia don't want to be bought out, and Sun makes a counter offer.
I think the takeover would be for Flash and it's related technolgies, not the whole of Macromedia - if it does, then I'm switching from Dreamweaver to GoLive!:(
 

Mr. Anderson

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Oh, the humanity! First Bungie and now Macromedia? Damn, I certainly hope this doesn't happen. Flash is fantastic, but put it in the hands of M$ and it might get top heavy. Anyone who's tried to make a webpage from a word document knows what I'm talking about. This would really suck :( :mad: :eek:
 

barkmonster

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This is VERY bad if it's true.

Microsoft are likely to incorporate the flash plug-in as part of IE, make it run on windows only then make flash itself windows only.

Of course then they'd have another monopoly lawsuit on their hands.
 

Blackcat

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Re: This is VERY bad if it's true.

Originally posted by barkmonster
Microsoft are likely to incorporate the flash plug-in as part of IE, make it run on windows only then make flash itself windows only.

Of course then they'd have another monopoly lawsuit on their hands.
Cool. In 5 years they'll be told not to do it again. Again.

:(
 

Megaquad

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Maybe this is Microsoft's revenge because Apple bought all those companies?
So they gonna cut Mac version now? Scary..

If Microsoft buys Flash we're doomed..
 

Billicus

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Originally posted by Megaquad
Maybe this is Microsoft's revenge because Apple bought all those companies?
So they gonna cut Mac version now? Scary..

If Microsoft buys Flash we're doomed..
If Micro$oft cuts all Apple support of everything, we're doomed. Not that I like them one ounce, but many, many users use their products.
 

fixxion

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oh well...

ehm. would not really matter to me since flash is much to slow for mac users from the beginning.. its becoming obvious to me that macromedia does not care for mac users... the animations lag like fat bastards boobs.. yes flash is cool .. but only if your a PeeCee user.. hey you'll never know.. something good might come out from Microsoft buyng the damn thing.. if you guys can remember OfficeV.x
was boasted as better than the pc version... but for the sake of the on-line community.. Pray that this wont happen...:)
 

bluecell

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I seriously doubt that this would happen. M$ would have to buy out Macromedia and I don't think a merger is likely to happen. Flash is too important to Macromedia for them to just let it go.

On the other hand, a collaboration between Apple, Sun and Adobe would be nice to see. An open source format to compete directly with both Flash and Shockwave. For one thing, the Flash Communication Server and Flash Remote Server aren't available for Mac, and will probably never be. Both products are WAY too expensive and somewhat limiting. An open source competitor, if done correctly, would destroy Macromedia.

Another thing about Macromedia is that they seem to be pro-M$ and anti-Apple. I'm tired of seeing .NET all over their products.
 

jefhatfield

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Originally posted by Blackcat
The Reg is pretty acurate when it comes to industry news. Here's hoping Macromedia don't want to be bought out, and Sun makes a counter offer.
sun would be better as to keep the integrity of the product

but sun's financials at times are scary and their ceo sometimes sounds like newt gingrich or the boy who cried wolf
 

Foocha

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I'm struggling the understand the connection that The Reg is making between J2EE and Flash here - there appears to be no connection to me - Flash is a client-side thing, and J2EE is server-side.

I've always thought that Microsoft would buy Flash one day, but not as a competitor to J2EE (??!) I think they'll use it as the new Graphics layer for Windows - enabling scaling interfaces and advanced compositing, it'll be their equivalent of Quartz. Imagine Windows commingled with Flash - sickening.

IMHO Flash was the worst thing to ever happen to the Web anyway - we're better off without it.
 

Foocha

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OK, I've read the article again, and they're saying that Coldfusion is what MS are after as an alternative to ASP - somehow I doubt that. No one uses CFM these days surely, and if Microsoft wanted it so bad, why didn't they snap it up before Macromedia last year?

That story on the Reg is all over the place.
 

Les Kern

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Originally posted by Megaquad
If Microsoft buys Flash we're doomed..
I'm no M$ lover, but I couldn't care less if they grab Flash. It's a toy, and since it hit the net there has been a backlash against superfluous falsh animations wasting bandwidth. Of course my daughter likes barbie.com, but so what. I'll buy her something educational.
And GoLive is pretty robust.
 

seven5

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uhhhhhh....

"The acqusition is speculated to put the future of Java 2 Enterprise Edition at risk."



uhhhh... what exactly is that supposed to mean. I'm not EVEN gonna get into why NONE of macromedia's technologies "put the future of Java 2 Enterprise Edition at risk"

I dare someone to try to make the link.....
 

macktheknife

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Flash has basically achieved what Java originally wanted to do--a platform-independent program that can run on multiple platforms. The potential of Flash is impressive when you think about it. Besides some nifty graphics animation, a programmer can use Flash Actionscript to create a front-end for web-based programs.
 

seven5

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flash can't do ANYTHING by itself. Any functionality outside of tweening and other visuals is done using PHP. Flash cannot do anything java can. Java is a object oriented language. Flash scripts with javascript sudo code and can have PHP attached to it. Java is so much more robust than Flash its rediculous. Please don't even start this argument, i have to go to bed early tonight.
 

electric

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Hiype,

Could this be related to the "Microsoft ordered to include Java" article?
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-978756.html?tag=fd_top

I use Flash and could not imagine any less support for Flash on a Mac, either production or play back. Perhaps Microsoft would make a more compatible version? Who knows.

It's funny to me that Macromedia has such bad support for Mac since Macromind Directors first debut was on Mac...... I think (don't quote me on that)
 

julzmon

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Nightmare

I'm a Flash Designer on a Mac. I've been holding out for a long time for Flash to work equally on the Mac. Macromedia's Mac products have been very poor lately. Flash MX is sooo bug ridden and slow.

If this happens it would be a nightmare to me.

I would have to switch to PC.

I pray this does not happen.


Julz
 

julzmon

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Originally posted by electric

It's funny to me that Macromedia has such bad support for Mac since Macromind Directors first debut was on Mac...... I think (don't quote me on that)
Flash was Mac only when they acquired it.
 

sparkleytone

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Originally posted by Megaquad
Maybe this is Microsoft's revenge because Apple bought all those companies?
So they gonna cut Mac version now? Scary..

If Microsoft buys Flash we're doomed..
altho this statement may seem like hyperbole...i think it may indeed be accurate. flash is a standard in every way standard is defined. its cross platform and high performance on all platforms. if m$ got hold of it, armageddon could ensue.

m$ products being dropped from Apple really wouldnt be as devastating as it seems on the surface. Apple has alot of money, and they could easily throw it at the OpenOffice devs in order to get a Cocoa/Carbon mix port in 4-6 months. Many people, especially those already on other platforms, are ready for an alternative to m$ office.
 

3G4N

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The 6 degrees of Flash and J2EE . . .

Originally posted by seven5
uhhhh... what exactly is that supposed to mean. I'm not EVEN gonna get into why NONE of macromedia's technologies "put the future of Java 2 Enterprise Edition at risk"

I dare someone to try to make the link..... [/B]
1) Macromedia Flash was originally named "Splash",
2) Tom Hanks starred in "Splash"
3) Hanks and Dan Akroyd were the leads in "Dragnet"
4) Akroyd and Steve Martin are "Two Wild and Crazy Guys"
5) Steve Martin was drinking "Java" in "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid"
6) J2EE

quite obvious, once you think about it. : )
 
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