Your organisation also has to be enrolled and willing to do it. We offer it to our users but we had to manually opt in via the VLSC.
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Microsoft to End Support for Office 2008 for Mac on April 9
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Your organisation also has to be enrolled and willing to do it. We offer it to our users but we had to manually opt in via the VLSC.
So in other words, my argument was too strong for you to counter with something productive and you needed to resort to this statement. No answer needed to your question. Please go back to eating your sushi.
My god, Pages is just terrible. I just use it so I can transfer my word document to the cloud
As a heavy user of Office on both Windows and Mac, I can attest that Office 2011 for Mac is god-awful -- especially Excel.
Totally agree. 2008 on my wife's PowerMac works far better than 2011 on my MBP and iMac. Outlook 2011 is a disgrace. How on earth could you design a product which uses different field names for the database to those in the operating system, so that data fails to sync or is corrupted. As usual, users of otherwise excellent and fully operational Power PC machines are being dumped in the ordure. Can't anyone design a decent mail/contacts/diary program for Mac and no Mail/iCal/Address book is no more the answer than the buggy fragile Outlook 2011.
I thought it was the end of the world when I switched to my iMac and had to use iWork. So I bought the office suite and felt all tingly. Now, after using Pages for so long, I could not possibly care less about MS. Certainly not enough to buy a subscription. So long suckers.
Support for XP is ending in April of 2014, which was an extension from an initial deadline which I believe was in 2012, which was AGAIN an extension from another deadline; basically, big companies shell-shocked from Vista still not sure if they want to go to 7 or 8, and forcing Microsofts hand into supporting XP. You cannot, however, get a license for XP anymore. Any new machine CANNOT run XP, that happened years ago and Lenovo threw a fit because they had actually refused to install Vista, instead putting XP on brand-new machines.
Even so, not quite a fair comparison. Operating systems have much longer lifespans than other pieces of software. Also, kind of the pot calling the kettle black; Apple tends to drop support for software and OS'es more quickly than MS does. (Granted, their software costs much less to upgrade...)
Personally, I use Office for Windows. Use it in parallels. I have Windows machines that use it, and I use it on my mac when compatibility is needed (Pages, Numbers and Keynote are good, but as good as keynote is I've found it's export to powerpoint to be less than stellar, and when you regularly present on a Windows XP powered projector setup, MS Office is the only option!). I kind of wish Apple would release a free 'viewer' for applications like keynote, so presenting on a Mac wouldn't be a necessity for Keynote users.
Beyond that, I use the iWork suite. I just prefer it. But; I prefer it for the same reason I prefer Final Cut Pro X over previous versions. It's simple, and doesn't have a ton of features that I don't need. The work I do in office and in FCP is basic to intermediate at best (letters, papers, simple presentations, etc. Video is basic stuff to, nothing pro or production level, would never dream of owning FCP if not for a steep education discount), so software that is easy, and has only the features I need and use (don't need to wade through complicated features I won't use) is nice. BUT, Office IS more powerful, and does more, for the niche of users who need those features.
The Tonight Show may be looking for new comedy writers. You should definitely apply because that's pretty funny.
Well I'm glad that you found it amusing. But could you explain why? I meant it to be serious and I'm curious as to why you thought it amusing.
Just my $0.02, Microsoft has stiffled innovation in IT for the past thirty years. They cannot go out of business fast enough for me. It was not until the development of the Smartphone by Apple and the subsequent tablet and rise of true mobile computing that someone was able to break their stranglehold.
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How about listing the top five out and I will tell you.
They have a hold on Enterprise desktop solutions with Windows and Office. I will count that as one and two.
They have Windows server, but I believe that Linus based systems are making inroads into that to the point that the market has stagnated for Microsoft. But I will count that as three.
Do you have a four and a five?
Sharepoint
xBox
System Center
and while not a cash cow it keeps Windows at 90% market share
Visual Studio
While I'm no fan of MS they do a lot of blue sky research.
I can guarantee Microsoft that I won't be "upgrading" to Office 2011. In fact, I will likely never buy it again. I tried Office 2011 and it sucks. It has neither the same feature set nor an even remotely similar user experience as the Windows version. I have never understood what would compel them to build completely different user experiences for Mac and Windows. It's absurd.
I use plenty of cross platform products (Adobe suites and browsers are just two examples) and the user experience is largely the same on Mac and Windows, with the OS-necessitated differences being relatively minor eye candy.
Now that I'm in a job that doesn't require me to use a single piece of Microsoft software, it's good riddance. I'll probably gain back ten years of my life on frustration relief alone.
I use plenty of cross platform products (Adobe suites and browsers are just two examples) and the user experience is largely the same on Mac and Windows, with the OS-necessitated differences being relatively minor eye candy.
Now that I'm in a job that doesn't require me to use a single piece of Microsoft software, it's good riddance. I'll probably gain back ten years of my life on frustration relief alone.
I am one of those still using Office 2008. I have migrated it from one machine to another. That's the only way to do it because 2008 requires an installer which needs Rosetta in order to run. That's the craziest part of the whole package.
My needs have changed and I'm not sure I'll upgrade. I like Pages better. It is certainly less expensive, smaller and doesn't hit me with a half gigabyte bug fix every few weeks.
My needs have changed and I'm not sure I'll upgrade. I like Pages better. It is certainly less expensive, smaller and doesn't hit me with a half gigabyte bug fix every few weeks.
I installed Office 2008 on my new iMac and had no problems with it but a few weeks ago I decided to get 2011, one of the last multi installer packs and have had no problem with it. Maybe I'm not a heavy user but Word and Excel work fine for me.
I invested $5 in a universal remote. It controls my Apple TV, Samsung TV set, Toshiba DVD player, Toshiba VCR, and it can act as a really bad SNES controller or the pointless XBOX controller.
I think it nicely summed up the deficiency of your argument.
So you respond with a racist comeback. Well played, dumbass, and welcome to my ignore list.
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I sort of agree with you but Excel 2011 for Mac supports VBA macro; if you work with clients who use Windows, that only made the upgrade from Excel 2008 mandatory.
I wonder if they will discount it. In any case, I'm doubtful many people will spend money on a subscription. Maybe, they should turn it into a freemium app where you could purchase coins to buy different actions. How much should it be worth to enable the help paper clip
Compound it with an in-app currency that allows you to avoid having to wait a set amount of time before you can do certain actions.