Microsoft to kill off Kin phones

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  1. skottichan macrumors 6502a

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  2. bobscliff macrumors regular

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    Seemed pretty cool in theory, was very slow and buggy in the store. R.I.P.
     
  3. Pojo458 macrumors member

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    The kins os was horribly made and the timeline was just stupid.
     
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    Interesting concept but poorly executed. I wonder how the new windows 7 phones will fare against the competition.

    Will Microsoft decide to kill them to if you don't sell?
     
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    Kin was an interesting concept, but it seemed obvious that nobody on the design team actually talked to the target audience to see what they wanted to do with it, or how much they were willing to pay. For one, they were charging full smartphone pricing plans -- $30/month -- yet the Kin had nowhere near the feature set of an iPhone or Android or Blackberry or any number of other smartphones.

    Microsoft reminds me very much of the parent who so desperately wants to appeal to their teenage children that they begin to dress and talk like teenagers, to try to look "cool". When, in fact, it has the exact opposite effect!
     
  6. cciliberto33 macrumors regular

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    Mircosoft killed it. Someone please notify the next of "kin"
    oOoOoOoOHHHHHH. :cool:
     
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    I don't see how anyone could have bought it with a $30/month price tag. It's not a smart phone, I don't understand why Verizon would have treated it like one...
     
  8. skottichan thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'd only had the chance to mess with my cousin's Kin2, she wasn't impressed and took it back and got an LG Ally.
     
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    Verizon was greedy and I feel verizon screwed the kin over by charging smart phone data for something that was not a smart phone
     
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    MicroSoft should have learned from Apple's failed codename Pink project. :p
     
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    Ms Kin RIP

    Wow, that didn't take long
    Engadget

    While I thought this was inevitable, I'm surprised by the swiftness of its fall and Microsoft's fast abandonment. They usually try to stick to something for a while.

    From what I've read they marketed these phones to kids/teenagers but the price of the phones and the verizon plan failed to make sense. It was out priced and was unable to perform along other phones that cost the similarly, *cough* iPhone *cough*
     
  12. -Ryan- macrumors 68000

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    I'm not really surprised following the news last week that under 500 had been sold. It was doomed really --- especially after the poor reviews. Doesn't bode well for Windows Phone 7, which in my opinion looks equally as bad.
     
  13. i worship apple macrumors newbie

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    i would of bought a kin if it wasent for the $30 data plan
     
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    According to the story on Engadget, the Kin was actually supposed to have come out a long time ago, but they decided to rebuild the original (acquired) OS from scratch because Microsoft wasn't comfortable having a product that wasn't running on the Windows platform. This apparently set back the Kin about 18 months, and Verizon was getting more and more frustrated with the delays until finally they pulled the pricing deals they were originally planning.

    Sounds like Microsoft is being held back by internal politics more than anything else.
     
  15. danielcox macrumors member

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    It was a nice idea, just poorly executed.
    Looking forward to what WM7 will bring.
     
  16. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    In the end I really blame verizon for this. The charge smart phone data prices for somewhat that really was a great feature phone. If it had been price with a feature phone data I believe it would of done a lot better. Why would se on get a kin over am android phone for about the same price and se cost per month.
     
  17. Consultant macrumors G5

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    MS is blending the Kin team with the w7 team.

    Btw, W7 team is modeling their phone after the 2007 iPhone.

    So 2007 iPhone knockoff + kin = win? Probably not.
     
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    I agree, the $30/month data plan that was required was absurd.
     
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    Most tech blogs who have previewed it were quite impressed.

    Link?
     
  21. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    says in the Engadget post the the teams are merging. as to the modeling after iPhone, that i have no idea where it came from.


    they shouldn't have even bothered with this phone. Microsoft is the poster child for bureaucratic mess-ups.
     
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    That's the only part I cared about, I knew the teams were merging. The rest stunk of fanboyism.
     
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    Thank god, I honestly did not understand the point of the Kin phones, it made so little sense to release the Kins when they were also releasing Mobile 7. They should've just released the Kins as Mobile 7 devices, showing off all the capabilities in one uniform package.
     
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    I probably shouldn't say anything, because I know somebody who worked on that team, and from the secondhand information I've occasionally gotten, this in no way surprises me.

    To start with, according to everybody I've known who has worked at Microsoft, the company is not so much a political nightmare as a perpetual political war zone. Turf wars there are the stuff of legend. Many good initiatives have suffered and died because influential VPs of completely unrelated products didn't believe in them and undermined them to death.

    And into that environment, where they already had one established mobile phone product, they bought and brought in another. Those people have spent years essentially starting over from scratch to make a product that already worked do more or less the same thing using Microsoft technologies instead. I never much cared for the Sidekick at all, but the new device was about as decent a refinement of that concept as I can imagine.

    The whole initiative didn't make much sense, except from one perspective, a theory I now consider somewhat confirmed: Microsoft was willing to buy a whole company and burn millions of dollars over years for no other reason than to light a fire under the Windows Mobile team's ass. Windows-based smartphones sucked. They continue to suck, and their prospects for ceasing to suck are still vaporware at best. From the start this was a "two products enter, one product leaves" sort of deal, and Danger just got carried out in a bag.
     
  25. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Funny how the world knew it was junk way before Microtrash did.

    Expectations are *that* low.
     

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