Pulled it out of a hat, just like most analysts.
I'm anticipating Apple will be worth $10T within 3 years.
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Microsoft to Stop Supporting Office 2016 for Mac in October
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I'm anticipating Apple will be worth $10T within 3 years.
Do people here realize that Office 2016 is NOT only subscription? Many people paid big bucks for a retail license (or through a business account) and paid a decent amount of money. Now, that software won't work if your email address lives on M365? That's pretty much crap. 2016 is not old. 2013 or 2011, maybe. Will it work but not be supported?
Do you realize there is 2016 and 2019 Office for Mac? If you bought 2016 in 2018 (before there was 2019 Office for Mac), then it's only 2 years old and now obsolete.
I call BS.
Do you realize there is 2016 and 2019 Office for Mac? If you bought 2016 in 2018 (before there was 2019 Office for Mac), then it's only 2 years old and now obsolete.
I call BS.
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Not many people know that the web versions of Word, Excel and PowerPoint are free to use. You're just limited to the basic storage you get with a Microsoft account. The web versions have less features compared to the desktop apps, but they're comparable to Google's offering and plenty enough for most people.
I find Microsoft 365 a great value overall because it comes with a 1TB OneDrive plan, all office apps incl. Outlook, and only costs $70. Neither Google nor Dropbox offer any plans at such price.
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It's actually cheaper than that. Microsoft 365 is $70 and the cheapest Dropbox plan is $120. Google One's pricing is closer to Dropbox. If all you need is 1TB of storage, OneDrive makes more sense.
That being said, the Dropbox ecosystem is the most reliable. I just had to ditch it after 8 years because of how expensive it is.
Dropbox seems to be focused more on enterprise rather than retail. Hopefully they are able to stay in business. They are not yet profitable.
I don’t think that’s correct. The 2016 version will still work. I have one on my second computer and there was a big pop up that it will still work but won’t receive any more updates.
It sounds like it won’t work with office 365 features but I don’t know what those are as I never use them. Rest assured, if you purchased a stand alone copy of office 2016, you can still use it.
Meh i still have office 365 from my university that hasnt expired for some odd reason but i still keep going back to office 2011 for Excel at least. Even after 4 years, they still havent fixed the issue with cells misclicking. Happens on all my computers when i start making changes to cells one after the other really quick
This actually kinda blows, I got the 2016 version the first year it was released compliments of my university and still use it today. In fact, I'm typing some notes in word right now for an assignment..
It was a good 6 year run I guess but it looks like it'll still function. Just won't connect to 365, which I don't have anyways.
Guess I can switch to Apples suite of apps?
It was a good 6 year run I guess but it looks like it'll still function. Just won't connect to 365, which I don't have anyways.
Guess I can switch to Apples suite of apps?
They do ... I don't.
To hell with Microsoft ... MS Office should NOT be a subscription service. I'll continue to use MS Office 2016 for my personal work and needs: MS Word (resume), Excel (freshen up my support skills), and OneNote cause I like note organization.
The ONLY way someone, or anyone should upgrade their personal needs to Office 365 - other than a broken desktop application - is if they heavily rely on OneNote and have broken notes saved from an existing O365 account which is unreadable on OneNote 2016 (.onetoc2 or .one file extensions). I'm LIVID with this - because the work I created for myself with a previous employer I was able to sync on iOS back in 2016 and now when I exported or saved OneNote O365 data to my Mac or former Win10 machine (even in Parallels) the data is unreadable and I cannot import to my personal O365 account. LIVID!
PS: Yeah yeah I know the corporate mantra - but loves of notes I can still use for my knowledge they already have their copy and nothing of corporate espionage/theft on my part in these OneNote files.
What's interesting too is that Microsoft has typically in the past provided security updates/support for longer than feature updates but it doesn't seem to be the case this time.
I'd be perfectly fine with no more feature-related updates, but the lack of security patches, in today's environment where we see almost daily breaches and vulnerabilities, is a deal-breaker to me (even on a reliable platform like the Mac) and definitely makes me think twice about keeping Office 2016 even as a backup.
I'll look into switching back to the iWork suite.
I'd be perfectly fine with no more feature-related updates, but the lack of security patches, in today's environment where we see almost daily breaches and vulnerabilities, is a deal-breaker to me (even on a reliable platform like the Mac) and definitely makes me think twice about keeping Office 2016 even as a backup.
I'll look into switching back to the iWork suite.
Wow, had no idea there was a web version of Office lol. Guess I'll start using that since my my office is about to be unsupported.
I only lament excel. Nothing is as good as excel for what it does. I use tableau, FileMaker, and other data tools, but for what it is, excel is awesome.
And I know it’s not dead. But I won’t be switching to a subscription until what ever device I have can’t run my current version.
And I know it’s not dead. But I won’t be switching to a subscription until what ever device I have can’t run my current version.
The web version is trash.
You said that you’re happy with the version you have and you do t use 365 anyway, so why switch?
Here's how all Microsoft Office licenses work now. There is no physical product, just a product key that is either on your receipt at time of purchase or emailed to you. You then go to office.com and log in with an existing Microsoft account or create a new account and enter the key there. Once the key is validated, you can download the installer for your OS. For the Microsoft 365 Home subscription, the account owner can add users by their email address to the license. It is important to note that the account owner is the only person who can see the emails of everyone under their account, but their S/O or children will not have access to that information. You can use any email address you want as the account owner or the additional users. I use a gmail account for my 365 subscription.
You can always opt for LibreOffice and tell your friends and businesses to do so, and support it with donations to release from Microsoft clutches.
Honestly, its a fair deal, Microsoft sold you 2016 Office they are not responsible to upgrade it for ever. The problem lies with Apple that keeps changing minimum standards and now changing to new processor deprecating your software. Old software runs just fine most of the time, its the OS that changes.
Honestly, its a fair deal, Microsoft sold you 2016 Office they are not responsible to upgrade it for ever. The problem lies with Apple that keeps changing minimum standards and now changing to new processor deprecating your software. Old software runs just fine most of the time, its the OS that changes.
Indeed. Dropbox also has native clients for all major operating systems, including Linux, which was important to me - yet I still could not justify the cost compared to what you get with OneDrive/Office365, especially after the last Dropbox price increase.
I wish Dropbox would do something about their subscription plans. The free plan is extremely limited in storage (2GB) and features, which should be no surprise. But the next step is $120 for 2TB, which is a lot of money when you never actually use more than 1% of that storage space. It's not even that the $-amount itself would be much of a burden, but it just feels like money poorly spent. I would have stayed with Dropbox if they had offered something in between, say, 50GB for $50 (not even asking for iCloud-level pricing), but no.
It is probably part of their business model, offering loads of space for loads of money, knowing very well that most people will only ever use a tiny fraction. But I doubt it is working out for Dropbox.
I remember in the past that at least on Windows, MS Office used to have more security vulnerabilities than the OS itself. So I'd hold my breath.
To put a finer point on some of these topics:
- As a subscriber, you can technically install the Microsoft 365 suite on an unlimited amount of PC and mobile devices. However, you can only be actively signed into Office on 5 PCs at a time. I have a lot of machines, but rarely find myself bumping up against this limit. From my experience, iPads (even >10.1”) don’t count against this limit. I’m signed in and using the full Office suite on my iPad Pro, but it’s not counting against my 5 PC limit when I look at my MS account online. This is why I distinguish 5 PCs at a time. Smartphones sign ins are unlimited.
- The above comment should not be confused with how many installations can be active on a family plan. You can share the subscription with up to 5 additional people. Which means one paid Microsoft subscription can technically have 30 active PCs (6 different accounts) and unlimited mobile devices signed in at the same time.
- The cloud syncing function should not be overlooked. I don’t believe LibreOffice has something similar, unless you do some janky Google Drive workaround. For household members that are not tech-savvy, having everything “just work” and auto-save across all their devices is invaluable.
- The 1TB of storage (times 6) is also a good value. There are certainly workarounds if you feel like using 6TB all to yourself as a single subscriber e.g. not sharing with family/friends.
- Finding annual subscription deals on Microsoft 365 Family is not terribly hard. Amazon runs it a few times a year for ~$50. You can stock up on these codes, and redeem up to 5 years into your MS account, at a time.
- When sharing, you can decide if the person is “family”, i.e. you can manage aspects of their account (like my kids) or if you’re just sharing with “another person”. This could be for your spouse or really any rando. You just invite them using their email address, but you don’t see their activity, and they don’t see yours. You can revoke their access at any time.
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I have an objection in principle to a subscription service for a word processor, but I must admit that the Office 365 Family pack is remarkably good value. I have enough licenses to cover my many laptops, plus my wife, sister and and mother, plus 1TB OneDrive storage for everyone, the iOS apps and some Skype minutes which my wife uses to call her family's cellphones overseas. It was £50 from Amazon (and Amazon as the seller rather than a shady third party).
I remember paying £350 for a single full Office Suite licence back in the 2000s.
Yes, I am still paying a sub for - primarily - a word processor, but the extras mean it doesn't hurt as much as I thought.
I remember paying £350 for a single full Office Suite licence back in the 2000s.
Yes, I am still paying a sub for - primarily - a word processor, but the extras mean it doesn't hurt as much as I thought.