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Microsoft Touts Co-Authoring, Scheduling Assistant, and Broadcast Slideshow in Office for Mac 2011
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Naw. I checked. They do have links about baseball and wrestling though.
I'm happy that Microsoft is finally making a decent version of Office for Mac, but I'm not happy that they are trying to make it all sound like they are doing such a great thing for the Mac community with these special features, but in fact it's still a dumbed down suite. No One Note, No Access, No InfoPath and No Sharepoint Workspace or Publisher (not that I care about Publisher with Pages around). All of which is on the Windows version and will end up the same price as the Mac version. So Office for Mac will still be best suited for a home office or small business. All this is planned out by Microsoft to keep Macs from fully integrating into the enterprise world.
Please don't post such ridiculous comments. Companies that have invested millions of dollars in Sharepoint infrastructure won't use Google Docs. Broadcasting slideshows with Skype also is a cheesy workaround for an enterprise. A lot of companies that broadcast large presentations use Custom Show.
Its good that a company can put effort and dedication into software for a rival platform. It's a perfect opportunity to 'show off' what you can do, not offer gimped software that makes the user resent the company.
Now they just need to port Live Essentials Wave 4 over
Now they just need to port Live Essentials Wave 4 over
Next time, don't post such a stupid comment.
Judging people by their looks are we? Give him a break, he seems like a nice guy don't you think?
Its good that a company can put effort and dedication into software for a rival platform. It's a perfect opportunity to 'show off' what you can do, not offer gimped software that makes the user resent the company.
Now they just need to port Live Essentials Wave 4 over
Oh please, they aren't doing it for the goodness of their heart or to show they are the bigger person, MS makes Office for Mac as a business opportunity. And before you or anyone says that it's a small community that they cater to, just keep in mind that there are a LOT of Windows users that torrent everything Microsoft makes. Chances are much better that most people will buy Office for Mac.
So instead of using a document format that is marginally standardized (docx, pptx, xlsx), you use one that is totally closed and proprietary (pages, keynote, numbers)? You can export to PDF or Quicktime from Office, only stuff will actually be able to open docx files in the future, it's highly unlikely that a private format like pages will be available indefinitely.
Just hurry up give us a nice, clean, refined version of Messenger for Mac, the current garbage has been in "beta" for months. Bring it up to par with the Windows version.
In my experience, I've found OpenOffice to work great 99.9% of the time - always manages to convert Office documents without a hitch - the only issue with OpenOffice is the absolutely ugly interface
iWork on the other hand is beautiful but just a pain, imo, to work with. Wow... you're really quite anti-MS aren't you? I have to applaud MS for at least not abandoning Office on the Mac and really trying with this release. You seem to be looking at the negatives of that, rather than the positives.
I for one, don't need InfoPath, Publisher or Access on Mac so Office 11 is looking like an attractive purchase to me. I guess it all comes down to a specific target audience...
Well Microsoft better not charge to much for this. I dumped Office for Mac back in 2006 because the price was just to high with NeoOffice and OpenOffice coming on strong now.
Yes, but not all companies have invested millions of dollars.
For those who are not an enterprise, Skype can be used similarly usefully.
Naw. I checked. They do have links about baseball and wrestling though.
You actually checked!!!
Did I, at any point assume that I thought they were doing it out the goodness of their hearts. I was merely stating that they are making this version well, better than the previous versions.
The way they seemed to be acting in the previous versions was 'If you want a decent version of Office, you're going to have to buy Windows'
And p.s; I BOUGHT my copy of Windows. and my copy of Office 2010, I have a few friends with Macs and half of them Torrent 90% of their software.
Even though Office 2010 is available in 64bit Microsoft is still recommending that businesses stick with the 32bit version due to dependencies most people have as part of the work flow - incompatible addons and so forth. I'd sooner Microsoft take their time to get it right than rush and result in a massive fiasco.
Unless Microsoft find a way to make Office as easy to use as iWork or as powerful as wordperfect I'm not changing back.
Maybe a replacement for Excel 2004
I'm more excited about this than I ever was about Excel 2008. I even made my range names compatible with Excel 2008 so that they will run in Excel 2011.
I remember when I thought that a spell checker was an unneeded feature. With so much text in income tax documents checking my typing is very important. remember what one person believes is bloat is a needed feature for someone else. No other spreadsheet has ever been able to handle my income tax prep program. I hope that Excel 2011 is as good as many make it sound like.
I like one menu line per Mac, not per window. I like one tool bar per Mac, not per window. Several years ago when I came up to a cell format limit I broke my program into many smaller linked together Excel spreadsheets. For this reason I will usually have a half a dozen to a dozen spreadsheets open at a time. I'm so used to being able to have many forms open at a time that I do not want to go backk to being able to see & use one form at a time.
Here's hoping!
I'm more excited about this than I ever was about Excel 2008. I even made my range names compatible with Excel 2008 so that they will run in Excel 2011.
I remember when I thought that a spell checker was an unneeded feature. With so much text in income tax documents checking my typing is very important. remember what one person believes is bloat is a needed feature for someone else. No other spreadsheet has ever been able to handle my income tax prep program. I hope that Excel 2011 is as good as many make it sound like.
I like one menu line per Mac, not per window. I like one tool bar per Mac, not per window. Several years ago when I came up to a cell format limit I broke my program into many smaller linked together Excel spreadsheets. For this reason I will usually have a half a dozen to a dozen spreadsheets open at a time. I'm so used to being able to have many forms open at a time that I do not want to go backk to being able to see & use one form at a time.
Here's hoping!
... broadcast slideshow features have been available through ssh since forever (think VNC); Thunderbird has integrated calendars in the mail application for quite a while as well. It seems Microsoft is finally coming around...
of course, as some people have stated, Keynote is much nicer looking than PowerPoint ever could be.
of course, as some people have stated, Keynote is much nicer looking than PowerPoint ever could be.
Really looking forward to coauthoring. I think this is going to be the killer app. for many. Hopefully it works across platforms (Mac and Windows), and allows all formatting to be retained.
Would also like to see the ribbon gone. The vertical working space is the most precious one on the laptops.
Would also like to see the ribbon gone. The vertical working space is the most precious one on the laptops.
The Ribbon Can Go Away
MS says that the ribbon can be turned off in Excel 2011. I use 3 30" displays with a 28" & 47" ones thrown in for customer viewing. Even with all of this display space I agree with you. I also do not like to lose any vertical space.
Even though I have had Excel 2008 since it came out I only use it for very special uses. For that reason I have not had to give away any vertical space.
MS says that the ribbon can be turned off in Excel 2011. I use 3 30" displays with a 28" & 47" ones thrown in for customer viewing. Even with all of this display space I agree with you. I also do not like to lose any vertical space.
Even though I have had Excel 2008 since it came out I only use it for very special uses. For that reason I have not had to give away any vertical space.
That is a good point on the pages, numbers and keynote formats. If I ever switch away from Mac I would have to convert all my documents which would be a pain. I don't really want to go through that again (although iWork will give me the option to save a copy of the file in the MS format as well which OpenOffice will open).
The biggest advantage to Pages and Numbers is the user interface (not the feature set). In my opinion Keynote is the only thing that really shines as best-of-breed features and interface in the iWork bundle.
I think you convinced me to stick with OpenOffice for Word Processing and Spreadsheet files just to avoid having to deal with a possible conversion downstream if Apple ever abandons iWork or I ever abandon Apple.
