mid 2011 mac mini monitor

61chrysler

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I need a new monitor and would like to buy something for now and have something that will work when I replace the mini after it dies. I currently have a 720p monitor and find that my hobby of photography is suffering.

From what I have read it appears as if I can add a 4k at this point, but I don't know what will happen to image quality if I run it at 1600 (if that is even possible).

The other possibility would be a 1440 monitor?

Comments or suggestions please.
 

Stephen.R

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If you ran a 4K display at "half" res it would be 1080p, which at least would mean even scaling. Given that the Mini is 8 years old, how long are you expecting to keep using it?

What size display are you aiming for?
 

61chrysler

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I will probably use the mini until one of no longer functions.I just picked up 27' 4k IPS non gaming monitor. I cannot find 1600 as a resolution option. 1440 seems to be adequate (control option made it available), but I would like to know how to access 1600.

Any ideas?
Thanks
 

61chrysler

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If you ran a 4K display at "half" res it would be 1080p, which at least would mean even scaling. Given that the Mini is 8 years old, how long are you expecting to keep using it?

What size display are you aiming for?
I appreciate your help. I now know that I am deficient in my knowledge of resolution. In monitor preferences, all resolution except 1080 have the label "(low resolution)". So 1080 does appear to be the default, as you stated.

If I purchased a 1440 monitor, would 1440 be the default resolution?
I am 72 and struggling with this.
 
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a2jack

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I appreciate your help. I now know that I am deficient in my knowledge of resolution. In monitor preferences, all resolution except 1080 have the label "(low resolution)". So 1080 does appear to be the default, as you stated.

If I purchased a 1440 monitor, would 1440 be the default resolution?
I am 72 and struggling with this.

I too have this mystery to solve. I have a Mac mini late 2012 driving a new 4k, 55" TCL TV.

I think the Mini is capable of at least 1440, but tv will only display 1080p. I have re-set the Res combinations on both the TV and Mini, and get no change, as both only read 1080p max.

My TCL will up-convert to a noticeable better pix from 1080p, but can't seem to do it every time. Anyone got the Magic ? (Btw. did do ALT key press on 'scaled' for expended Res list,but no 1440 there.)
 
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61chrysler

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I too have this mystery to solve. I have a Mac mini late 2012 driving a new 4k, 55" TCL TV.

I think the Mini is capable of at least 1440, but tv will only display 1080p. I have re-set the Res combinations on both the TV and Mini, and get no change, as both only read 1080p max.

My TCL will up-convert to a noticeable better pix from 1080p, but can't seem to do it every time. Anyone got the Magic ? (Btw. did do ALT key press on 'scaled' for expended Res list,but no 1440 there.)
When discussing this exact issue with a tech on line, he was able bring up an expanded res list including 1440 (using some type of remote access to my computer). He stated that he used alt/control, but I have not been able to make it work for me, so some magic key combo seems to work.
 

a2jack

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When discussing this exact issue with a tech on line, he was able bring up an expanded res list including 1440 (using some type of remote access to my computer). He stated that he used alt/control, but I have not been able to make it work for me, so some magic key combo seems to work.
I have a standard key board and I go -Sys-Pref> Display> Alt (or option on Mac key) press Scaled. Full Res list will appear. a2
 

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61chrysler wrote:
"If I purchased a 1440 monitor, would 1440 be the default resolution?
I am 72 and struggling with this."


I, too, am older with older vision.

Before going further, let me say that at my age, I find the size of text, rather than the "sharpness" of text, is more important to make it readable to me.
To put it another way, it doesn't matter how sharp text may be (retina or not) -- if it's too small, I can't make it out!

I use a 27" 1080p display that has a pixel size of about .31mm (1920x1080).
Most of the younger folk here start shrieking when I mention that, saying "a display like that is too GRAINY!".
Perhaps it is for them.
But NOT for my old eyes.

I'm wondering if this is the case for you.

If you go to a 1440p display, which is 2560x1440, you need to take into account the overall size of the display.
At 27", the pixel size will drop to .23mm.
This is getting to be "too small" for me, retina or not.
The Apple 5k iMac (with a retina display) yields 2560x1440 at 27". I find that text displayed "at normal font sizes" to be "too small" for comfort. At least for me.
I helped a friend set up a 2017 5k iMac, and he, too, didn't like the small text. He ended up decreasing the displayed resolution to make everything larger, so that he could read it.

BUT...
Increase the display's diagonal size to 32", and 1440p results in a pixel size of .277.
For me, that's tolerable and usable.
BE AWARE that there are few (none?) 32" 5k displays. If any exist, they are bound to be quite expensive.
HOWEVER... there are numerous 32" 1440p (native resolution) displays available.
This might be "the best compromise" for someone with older vision, who wants a larger display but one that still yields a pixel size "easy for older eyes".

Here's a very useful URL for checking different resolutions and resulting pixel sizes:
https://www.sven.de/dpi/
 
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tonyunreal

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I had a 3440x1440 monitor and my 2011 mini can't even output to it at 2560x1440 (or any other resolution) with a displayport cable. Bought a mini-dp to dual link DVI adapter and the monitor works at 2560x1440. Got a bit frustrated during the process but at least it ended up working for the time being.

Fast forward to this year, upgraded to the 2018 mini with a Razer Core X / Vega 64 egpu and a 4K monitor, couldn't be happier. I guess adding a thunderbolt 1 egpu to the old mini should also work, but I think I'm done with the old hardware plus thunderbolt 1/2 gpu enclosures are harder to find in my country.
 

a2jack

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Yea, guys I can't see either.

For day to day stuff I use 1360 x 768 on a 32" TV. I kick it up a bit for vid clips etc.

We watch movies on a 4k, 55" TV running at 1080p. As we sit only 10ft away, it looks great. All our movies are streamed at around 25Mb in, so too slow for 4k. A2
 

twalk

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Just a note, very, very few 4K monitors can do 1600p. Most can do 1440p. Some (typically older ones) can only drop down to 1080p. I've got the 4K HP Envy monitor from a couple of years ago and it can do 1600p with my 2011 Mini