@K4sper , thanks that confirms that OS X is automatically doing HiDPI modes with this monitor i.e. scaling up the desktop x2 and then scaling it down to your chosen resolution. e.g. 5120x3414 goes to your GPU, and this is scaled down to 2560x1707 on the monitor (in your example). You definitely do want this - it makes everything quite a lot sharper than the old method of sending 2560x1707 to the monitor and upscaling that to 3840x2560.
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mini paired with Hauwei's new 4.5K 3:2 monitor = iMac killer?
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@K4sper , would you be able to set the Mateview to native resolution (although probably any of the HiDPI resolutions would also work). Then go into SwitchResX, select external monitor in the list on the left, and take a screenshot of the Custom Resolutions tab. It should be autofilled with all the parameters currently being used:
I would be interested in all of the parameters on that tab.
I am curious has to how Hauwei has managed to squeeze so many pixels into a Displayport 1.2 connection!
I would be interested in all of the parameters on that tab.
I am curious has to how Hauwei has managed to squeeze so many pixels into a Displayport 1.2 connection!
your window shows up when I go to "add" on the the custom resolution tab...
I clicked around to get different initial situation but it did not change
... ill search again if you have ideas 😀
I clicked around to get different initial situation but it did not change
... ill search again if you have ideas 😀
Thanks. Please double-click on the active resolution in that list and post a screenshot of the window that pops up. That's the timing.
Yep. But the M1's GPU can handle it.
Just double-click on the active (selected) resolution in the "Verfügbare Auflösungen" tab.
It also does this with my 16:10 4K monitor, so it is... "smart enough" in this regard.
I still hope Apple is preparing some normally priced 27" 5K monitor, to replace LG ultrafine 5K, it just doesn't make any sense only monitor they produce is priced at 6000$.
Something to use with mac mini, macbook pro 13 (or 14" soon).
I like design and 3:2 about this huawei, but we need 220+ PPI for true experience ..
Something to use with mac mini, macbook pro 13 (or 14" soon).
I like design and 3:2 about this huawei, but we need 220+ PPI for true experience ..
@K4sper - SwitchResX has an "EDID exportieren" button (you can see it on your screenshots) - that creates a text file containing all pre-defined modes the monitor exposes. Can you attach this file (you might need to compress it to a .zip for the forum to accept it) to a post so we can have a look? Thanks again
@tornado99 - The 3600×2400 mode is indeed shown on this screenshot.
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Great thread for somebody considering the Mateview I'm considering getting one for my coworking space and taking advantage of the £200 cashback offer, plus trying to flog whatever freebee comes with it. Just wondered if anybody was using / has used it at 3008x2005 scaled? I use an LG Ultrafine 5K at home and prefer to run 27"+ monitors above 2560x1440 for the extra real-estate. I'm slightly concerned the Mateview won't look great at that res - does anybody know how to to work out the PPI? My knowledge is limited, but I think 3008x2005 would reduce the PPI compared to 2560x1707? Please do correct me!
I'm considering getting one for my coworking space and taking advantage of the £200 cashback offer, plus trying to flog whatever freebee comes with it. Just wondered if anybody was using / has used it at 3008x2005 scaled? I use an LG Ultrafine 5K at home and prefer to run 27"+ monitors above 2560x1440 for the extra real-estate. I'm slightly concerned the Mateview won't look great at that res - does anybody know how to to work out the PPI? My knowledge is limited, but I think 3008x2005 would reduce the PPI compared to 2560x1707? Please do correct me!
Sorry I can't export these infos.. I don't know why but the button is greyed out--Thanks again
Do you mean Pixel Per Inch on the screen? these don't change by the resvolution... but.. I checked 2005 and it works both... looks almost the same... for fun I measured the hight of the menu bar on 1707 it is 6 mm and on 2005 its exactly 5mm... I the MacBook 13inch has also the 5mm hight.. 😅
- btw the sound connection over the display cable works now but it is really bad.. only for emergency purposes I guess...
- it is annoying that the "Touchbar" is optimized for changing the input and the volume but you have to click multiple times to get to brightness settings
- the 500nits is cool but it still could have more 🎭
- it is not apple unibody craftsmanship ... but ... neither that one or any other would survive a good drop.
- the possibility to change the hight is great
Just ordered one 'cause Amazon had it for 9% off LOL.
I'm using this calculator.
I'm using this calculator.
- The monitor's actual pixel density is always 163.66 PPI.
- If you use the "looks like 2560×1707" setting, it looks like a monitor with 109.11 PPI.
- If you use the "looks like 3008×2005" setting, it looks like a monitor with 128.19 PPI.
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I'm close to purchasing one, but still haven't found anyone who has compared sharpness on this monitor to a 185 dpi 4K. Really hoping it's virtually the same.
Also some people are complaining about the corners being dimmer than the centre, but the Hexus review is not that bad on their model:
Also some people are complaining about the corners being dimmer than the centre, but the Hexus review is not that bad on their model:
I will.
ComputerBase's review (German) also mentions that. The difference is up to 25% on their sample though.
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Got the monitor today but may not be able to play with it before the weekend due to work.
Hi everyone!
I've just tested this monitor at Huawei store (I'm from Moscow and here we've got plenty of them) and I'd like to share some thoughts and pics.
I'm using a relatively old MBP 15" 2018 and there appears to be absolutely no problem/zero lags running this monitor - everything works like a charm including the internal speakers (in comparison with the m1 macbook - correct me if I'm wrong).
After reading this thread and watching some reviews I was kinda confused about the strange hidpi resolution options macOS offers with this monitor by default (3008x2005 right after 3840x2560 which is a huge step), but again it seems to be some specifics of the m1 macbooks (not sure about the new imac) . In my case macOS gives way better scaled hidpi options - for ex 3360x2240 (which means visible ppi is 143,2) next to 3840x2560 which makes sense.
I'm totally in love with that 3:2 ratio as I'm a lawyer and working with documents takes most of my time. There's no problem placing 4 documents side by side just like I got used to with my current Benq EW3280U (a 4k 32"monitor with a good ips panel). Thanks to the ratio really more text fits the screen.
I can't say for sure as I'm not a designer, photographer, etc, but it seems to be really well calibrated, I can see no noticeable difference with the MBP's screen.
MateView's original ppi of 163 is noticeably higher than my Benq's , though I really have zero complaints about Benq's screen, especially considering the fact that 32" screen makes you sit further from it. I even can't use it in original 4k 'cause everything looks too small and I use the 3360x1890 scaled hdpi resolution all the time.
But MateView is so slick and stylish plus it has superb screen ratio for my main use case, so I'm going to sell the Benq and replace it with this one🙂
PS it's 100% obvious that even if Apple is really working on some cheeper and smaller version of Pro XDR Display, its price is still going to be WAY higher than the MateView's. And it's very unlikely it will have a 3:2 or 16:10 ratio, speakers and normal usb hub.
I've just tested this monitor at Huawei store (I'm from Moscow and here we've got plenty of them) and I'd like to share some thoughts and pics.
I'm using a relatively old MBP 15" 2018 and there appears to be absolutely no problem/zero lags running this monitor - everything works like a charm including the internal speakers (in comparison with the m1 macbook - correct me if I'm wrong).
After reading this thread and watching some reviews I was kinda confused about the strange hidpi resolution options macOS offers with this monitor by default (3008x2005 right after 3840x2560 which is a huge step), but again it seems to be some specifics of the m1 macbooks (not sure about the new imac) . In my case macOS gives way better scaled hidpi options - for ex 3360x2240 (which means visible ppi is 143,2) next to 3840x2560 which makes sense.
I'm totally in love with that 3:2 ratio as I'm a lawyer and working with documents takes most of my time. There's no problem placing 4 documents side by side just like I got used to with my current Benq EW3280U (a 4k 32"monitor with a good ips panel). Thanks to the ratio really more text fits the screen.
I can't say for sure as I'm not a designer, photographer, etc, but it seems to be really well calibrated, I can see no noticeable difference with the MBP's screen.
MateView's original ppi of 163 is noticeably higher than my Benq's , though I really have zero complaints about Benq's screen, especially considering the fact that 32" screen makes you sit further from it. I even can't use it in original 4k 'cause everything looks too small and I use the 3360x1890 scaled hdpi resolution all the time.
But MateView is so slick and stylish plus it has superb screen ratio for my main use case, so I'm going to sell the Benq and replace it with this one🙂
PS it's 100% obvious that even if Apple is really working on some cheeper and smaller version of Pro XDR Display, its price is still going to be WAY higher than the MateView's. And it's very unlikely it will have a 3:2 or 16:10 ratio, speakers and normal usb hub.
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Thanks for giving the monitor a spin and sharing your thoughts I'm really looking forward to playing with mine.
I'm really looking forward to playing with mine.M1 Macs cannot do HiDPI resolutions wider than 3008 pixels - that's where the huge step between 3008×2005 (HiDPI) and 3840×2560 (native - no HiDPI) comes from. Intel Macs do not suffer from this limitation.
I case you missed it (easy with the thread title), Huawei have released the MateStation X, which appears to be the MateView, but with a computer built in. If it allows video input through the USB-C, it could be a great way to have a great monitor for a Mac, with a Windows machine available if needed without taking up any more space.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-imac-clone-from-the-future.2310583/
https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-matestation-x-first-all-in-one-pc-featuring-28-2-inch-display/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-imac-clone-from-the-future.2310583/
https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-matestation-x-first-all-in-one-pc-featuring-28-2-inch-display/
Didn't know that, thanks! I really hope this issue will be somehow solved in future 'cause I'm planning to switch to m1 (m1x? m2?) MBP 16" after its release later this year
Finally found a little time to play with mine. Quite satisfied so far. I'm running it scaled at "looks like 2560×1707" and don't notice a significant reduction in sharpness compared to a 23.6" 3840×2160 monitor running at "looks like 2304×1296" (so that PPIs match). The aspect ratio is just lovely for working with text.
I've had a look at the display's EDID. The following modes are exposed via DisplayPort. HDMI presumably has a different EDID. All timings follow CVT-RB standards apart from the 3840×2560 at 30 Hz one which has a substantially higher pixel clock.
I've had a look at the display's EDID. The following modes are exposed via DisplayPort. HDMI presumably has a different EDID. All timings follow CVT-RB standards apart from the 3840×2560 at 30 Hz one which has a substantially higher pixel clock.
| Resolution | Refresh Rate | Pixel Clock |
| 3840 × 2560 | 59.984 Hz | 631.75 MHz |
| 3840 × 2560 | 29.997 Hz | 406.50 MHz |
| 3600 × 2400 | 59.999 Hz | 557.00 MHz |
| 3000 × 2000 | 59.999 Hz | 390.00 MHz |
| 2560 × 1440 | 59.951 Hz | 241.50 MHz |
| 2160 × 1440 | 59.955 Hz | 206.00 MHz |
I decided not to lose an almost 100$ discount on the monitor while my Benq is being sold and got mine yesterday! So here are some more things about it:
- I'm using it through TB3 dock station by HyperDrive Works equally good via type с and via miniDP-DP cables with all available resolutions, though the mic works only via type с - my MBP doesn't detect it via miniDP. Hope this makes sense but not really sure 'cause this is my first monitor with a mic built in. Anyways can't check it by connecting the miniDP directly to MBP for I don't have a miniDP-type c cable.
- Discovered one disappointing thing which I didn't check at the store couple of days ago, though I'm not planning to play games on this monitor or watch movies very often - it seems to have NO HDR support on macOS for the moment. My MBP just refuses to recognise it as and hdr monitor - I tried both miniDP and type с cables and also connected it via type с directly to MBP without the docking station, also rebooted MBP couple of times - no result unfortunately. But I really hope Huawei can solve this in future updates. I wonder if this issue affects really all Macs and macOS versions. However I also didn't see an HDR checkbox in macOS monitor settings of m1 Macs displayed in some reviews on it on YouTube.
So people pls confirm that I'm not the only one with this issue, thanks
BTW my firmware version is 6.8.0.169(C001) and I can't check for the updates because I don't have a usb mouse to connect to the monitor
- Usb hub works without a problem and gives enough power to light up the lightbar by Xiaomi. It is very comfortable to use it (though I don't really need to because I have the docking station) because the display can be easily shifted up to give access to it. For the same reason it is very nice that the hub is located right on the side of the stand and not on the back of it. And funny thing - this lightbar could hardly be placed on the Benq because of its thickness (for it has nice and big speakers built in) but here the situation is just the opposite - the lightbar is way too thick for this monitor and I'm thinking of some workaround to fix it normally
- I'm using it through TB3 dock station by HyperDrive Works equally good via type с and via miniDP-DP cables with all available resolutions, though the mic works only via type с - my MBP doesn't detect it via miniDP. Hope this makes sense but not really sure 'cause this is my first monitor with a mic built in. Anyways can't check it by connecting the miniDP directly to MBP for I don't have a miniDP-type c cable.
- Discovered one disappointing thing which I didn't check at the store couple of days ago, though I'm not planning to play games on this monitor or watch movies very often - it seems to have NO HDR support on macOS for the moment. My MBP just refuses to recognise it as and hdr monitor - I tried both miniDP and type с cables and also connected it via type с directly to MBP without the docking station, also rebooted MBP couple of times - no result unfortunately. But I really hope Huawei can solve this in future updates. I wonder if this issue affects really all Macs and macOS versions. However I also didn't see an HDR checkbox in macOS monitor settings of m1 Macs displayed in some reviews on it on YouTube.
So people pls confirm that I'm not the only one with this issue, thanks
BTW my firmware version is 6.8.0.169(C001) and I can't check for the updates because I don't have a usb mouse to connect to the monitor
- Usb hub works without a problem and gives enough power to light up the lightbar by Xiaomi. It is very comfortable to use it (though I don't really need to because I have the docking station) because the display can be easily shifted up to give access to it. For the same reason it is very nice that the hub is located right on the side of the stand and not on the back of it. And funny thing - this lightbar could hardly be placed on the Benq because of its thickness (for it has nice and big speakers built in) but here the situation is just the opposite - the lightbar is way too thick for this monitor and I'm thinking of some workaround to fix it normally
I'm not getting any HDR settings either. Rocking an AMD Radeon RX 460 and macOS Mojave here.
From the product page:
"Moreover, there are 4 microphones placed inside this computer to catch your voice from all possible directions."
...for whose benefit?
@Amethyst1 good to hear that sharpness is similar to a 24" 4K.
How about 10-bit colour modes? The Mateview can do 10bit 60Hz at 3600x2400, and of course you'd want a scaled resolution that works well with that.
You should be able to check if 10-bit is on via about this mac
How about 10-bit colour modes? The Mateview can do 10bit 60Hz at 3600x2400, and of course you'd want a scaled resolution that works well with that.
You should be able to check if 10-bit is on via about this mac