Minor Changes to Sherlock, iDisk

[ThomasJefferson]

Weel, this is a nice tidbit, but *cough* ... what were we talking about? oooh, how I want a nice red-meat rumor. Something I can sink my teeth into.

Since the G5, no complaints there - I sense a collective exhale.

Come'on Apple, let something slip out of that tight grip. A coffee maker attachment for my ibook? The iweather-balloon travel wizard? iKY?

 

[johnnowak]

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque
Apple is obviously dropping the "user friendly" paradigm with such a choice.
Its not bad to attract UNIX users, I for one would probably benefit a lot from it ( I love GIMP for example ), but not at the expense of switching the company's focus.
User friendliness MUST be a priority for the company that invented the GUI.

1) Most people won't even notice
2) You loving GIMP does not have anything to do with case-sensitivity's usefulness to you.
3) Apple didn't invent the GUI.

 

[Wonder Boy]

Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
I placed my order the end of July and my system is not expected to arrive until early Oct. so I'm pretty sure I'll be getting Panther on it.

Smart move.

 

[SeaFox]

case sensitive iDisk

heh heh

I can hear the arguements already...

"No, I didn't ask for the 'Summer Sales' file! I wanted the 'summer sales' file! Were you listening to me?"

 

[Foocha]

The file system is a very low level component of the system - there is no reason that this issue should have much significance on average users.

Windows 2000 and Windows XP have a case sensitive file system but this has no impact on the average user experience, since Windows Explorer is case insensitive.

Case Insensitive is likely to become the default over time, and the truth is most users will not notice the change.

Give Apple some credit!

 

[tduality]

Originally posted by mangoman
Just bought .mac. The sync feature IS worth the price to me, but iDisk is WAY TOO SLOW (and my connection speed rocks!).

So here's to fixing that (raises toast).

iDisk is much faster when I access it from my office with a PC. Connection speed is higher (768 Kbit/s vs. 512 Kbit/s) in the office but I think the real problem is latency.

Looks like the WebDAV (or whatever is behind that) implementation is faster on Windows or the Mhz matters in this case.

Just guessing.

 

[tny]

Re: Re: Re: Case sensitive

Originally posted by Snowy_River
This is rediculous. Of course searching and sorting are going to maintain their current functionality. They will (most likely) be completely case insensitive. (I agree that this may well give rise to the possibility of case sensitive searching as an option, but certainly not by default.)

I really think this whole case sensitive business is being drastically over reacted to...

The problem isn't searching, it's running programs and opening files from a command line or by typing a file name - something that Mac users aren't used to doing (ok, some type the file name, but most don't). In UNIX, if you are trying to run XFreeConfig and you type xfreeconfig, it won't work. The problem is that we don't think of filenames as sequences of letters, but rather as words, and casing just isn't part of how we memorize spelling (let's face it, don't you usually decide casing based solely upon syntax or "proper-ness" of a word?). So while you're adding UNIX compatibility (now you can have multiple files with the same name but different cases in the same directory), what you're making yourself compatible with is a "feature" that is one of the big negatives about UNIX, and doing so to accommodate poor filenaming methods (anyone who has filenames in a program, for instance, which differ only by casing, is simply not writing easy to maintain code - because the comments, for instance, will have to make sure to distinguish the case, etc. so that someone looking over the files will know that the distinction is important).

If you're going to have to add this compatibility, I'd make it a folder-by-folder thing: automatically turn it off in User folders, but turn it on in the Application folder and UNIXy directories.

 

[AppleMatt]

Re: Re: Big changes finishing

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque
why would anyone need a case sensitive idisk
Apple is really going crazy if they are not giving you the option to choose

Because you can choose when you format your hard-disk in Panther. What would happen if the average home user had a folder full of files such as;

example
Example
ExamplE

and they uploaded them to the iDisk?

It does seem to have kicked off quite a debate though, I think it's a non-issue.

AppleMatt

 

[Powerbook G5]

I for one will reformat and choose case sensitive when I get Panther. It is just another way that OS X is reaching a new level of flexibility. I know my own way of naming files, so I am not going to get confused by naming files like
File
fIle
fiLe
filE
file
FILE