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mad jew said:
Fair enough, but some people don't like using those sorts of programs because of their reputations to mess with system files.

Anyways, I'm sure we'll all just get used to Tiger and grow to love it. :)


Shapeshifter is permanently ON on my computer. it's very stable. there's really nothing to worry about. although i think i'll use the standard GUI style for at least a month to really give credit/tribute to the original Tiger. i did the same for Panther. :)
 
Ryan1524 said:
Shapeshifter is permanently ON on my computer. it's very stable. there's really nothing to worry about. although i think i'll use the standard GUI style for at least a month to really give credit/tribute to the original Tiger. i did the same for Panther. :)

That's good to hear, I didn't think these programs were all that bad but I know heaps of people who won't touch them with a barge pole. Glad to hear Shapeshifter's fine.

Myself, I'm such a fan of Panther that I really don't see the need for different themes. :D
 
I will not let programs like shapeshifter anywhere near my Macs. They have caused a lot of grief earlier judging by the forums here and they will continue to cause grief as the OS gets updated and causes new conflicts that noone have thought of.
 
gekko513 said:
I will not let programs like shapeshifter anywhere near my Macs. They have caused a lot of grief earlier judging by the forums here and they will continue to cause grief as the OS gets updated and causes new conflicts that noone have thought of.

I would wait until Shapeshifter is updated for Tiger AND THEN install Shapeshifter. I think Apple is changing the looks because the Panther UI wouldn't look that great with Dashboard and Spotlight. If Shapeshifter screwed up everyone's computers, it wouldn't be very popular, right?
 
I love the metal.

I notice form the desktop pictures that lots of user tweak their Macs...mine looks like the day I got it, Aqua interface and all. :D
 
For what I have seen so far, I live it. I like the new mail too. The drawer was always an annoyance to me. Shame they didn't clean up (or improve) iCal.

But time will tell, and either way I can't wait for Tiger.
 
BWhaler said:
For what I have seen so far, I live it. I like the new mail too. The drawer was always an annoyance to me.

I have heard that before, but I'm still curious why? Because personally I've always thought drawers were a very useful UI innovation.
 
if you look back to the posts right before panther came out, a lot of people said they were afraid of the look. People are afraid of change. A lot of people didn't like the look of the G5, and it's grown on a lot of people. It's still not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but just like with any apple product, they put their best into each product, and I'm sure they wont dissapoint. Just give the GUI a shot.
 
mgargan1 said:
if you look back to the posts right before panther came out, a lot of people said they were afraid of the look. People are afraid of change. A lot of people didn't like the look of the G5, and it's grown on a lot of people. It's still not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but just like with any apple product, they put their best into each product, and I'm sure they wont dissapoint. Just give the GUI a shot.
Like I said, once you use it for a while, it looks weird to go back to the old... After using Panther for so long, Jaguar looks so yucky!

I just noticed that in Tiger, if you click another windows, or the desktop, many of the apps "solid bar" turns into a bar with stripes (like the top bar in Panther now).
 
mgargan1 said:
if you look back to the posts right before panther came out, a lot of people said they were afraid of the look. People are afraid of change. A lot of people didn't like the look of the G5, and it's grown on a lot of people. It's still not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but just like with any apple product, they put their best into each product, and I'm sure they wont dissapoint. Just give the GUI a shot.

This is a very good point. Listen to this guy, he's right on.
 
The Drawers

TigerPRO said:
I have heard that before, but I'm still curious why? Because personally I've always thought drawers were a very useful UI innovation.

Drawers are great on a wide screen Mac, but they're awful on a smaller screen. Having to move the window back and forth to access the drawer.

And, of course, you have the times when the drawer pops up on the opposite side of the window, really throwing you off.

The best thing they did for iCal was liberating the drawer (if you haven't noticed, you can now set the drawer to become a floating palette).
 
Widgets & Style Consistency

It looks to me like Apple wants the main part of the GUI to look as plain as possible so that windows will be distinguishable from widgets. No one theme seems to be used in the widgets so in practice OS X 10.4 will be a lot more colourful than it looks on screen-shots.

As for the stripes, they come from the days when ADC displays and CRT iMacs had stripes on the frame of the monitors. There was a consistency between the phisical and the virtual Apple products, much like the brushed metal theme of Safari/iTunes and the Powerbooks/Cinema Displays aluminium bodies.
 
TigerPRO said:
I have heard that before, but I'm still curious why? Because personally I've always thought drawers were a very useful UI innovation.

Here's Why:

1. Terrible for small screens.

2. Not consistent location. Depending on where window is, it'll be either on the left or right side of the screen

3. Takes up too much screen real estate. Look at iCal for the perfect example. A few fields then the remaining 70% is empty white space which can never be filled up.

4. Not much of a visual break. Plus, icons on drawers tend to be small.

5. Finally, it's a personal taste thing, but I like as much info and functionality in the main screen as possible. Don't like having to fish around for things. Of course, a drawer is better than a pop-up any day.
 
Sol said:
It looks to me like Apple wants the main part of the GUI to look as plain as possible so that windows will be distinguishable from widgets. No one theme seems to be used in the widgets so in practice OS X 10.4 will be a lot more colourful than it looks on screen-shots.

As for the stripes, they come from the days when ADC displays and CRT iMacs had stripes on the frame of the monitors. There was a consistency between the phisical and the virtual Apple products, much like the brushed metal theme of Safari/iTunes and the Powerbooks/Cinema Displays aluminium bodies.
Yep, I still sorta like the stripes on my G3! Very old school new Mac.
 
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