MKBHD talks "Chipgate"....

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  1. Jayjew, Oct 15, 2015
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    Edit: I no longer care what chip I have, as long as it performs okay and doesn't have any defects.
     
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    Headphones?
     
  3. Jayjew macrumors 6502

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    He's drunk, when I ignore him, he complains that I hate him.
     
  4. rockitdog Suspended

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    I like MKBHD but he didn't say anything that wasn't already known. Except for the fact he also has a Samsung iPhone!
     
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    So glad you went ahead and posted to tell us this. Really appreciate it.
     
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    Baseball bat?
     
  7. richard371, Oct 15, 2015
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    Can we get an update here. The suspense is just too much lol.

     
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    Oops, forum, not chat room.
     
  9. Conan86 macrumors 6502

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    I think there's a few inaccuracies in this video.. First off, Geekbench does not push the chip to perform at 100% the whole time for the battery test. Secondly, you generally do not compare the process size to camera sensor size, bigger processor != better processor.
     
  10. Jayjew macrumors 6502

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    No prob.
     
  11. Xenomorph macrumors 65816

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    Thank you.

    Listening to this guy, it seems like he's reading someone else's script, because he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's not familiar with Apple & Samsung's relationship, doesn't know that CPUs are improved when made smaller, mentions nothing that has already been said on a hundred other sites, and just regurgitates the same Lirum + Geekbench stuff mentioned elsewhere. Other apps detect the CPU. Other programs can test battery. Why not mention Basemark? It shows the Samsung as more power efficient than the TSMC. Why not mention the variation in chip manufacturing?

    It was mostly the part about "bigger CPU = better" that made him lose all credibility with me.
     
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    As soon as he said processors are like camera sensors, I was done.
     
  13. Stevessvt macrumors 6502

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    Wait what? He said the bigger the chip, like in camera sensors, the better. Sooooo chip makers have been going the wrong way all these years by going smaller fab size?? Who knew?!?
     
  14. teddat macrumors member

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    MKBHD usually has great reviews and videos. This time he didn't do enough homework. A couple ways to improve power efficiency on processors, SOCs... you can either reduce the clock speed, chip voltage, or die size. Theres other ways in the chip design itself but going to smaller transistors will use less power, its been proven over and over again in other manufacturers histories.

    So why does Samsung use more power at peak clock speeds? even with the smaller die and transistor sizes? thats the explanation i been hoping would be revealed more but so far, i haven't read anything from anyone that could explain it realistically.
     
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    Literally no new info except for this fascinating new insight about bigger being better. Oh and that new "Lirium" app of course, off to download that now.

    Ugh.
     
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    omg please keep us updated. i'll be watching your placeholder for edits.
     
  17. Stevessvt macrumors 6502

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    Yeah I just don't understand his logic with this one. The bigger the chip, like camera sensors, the better? He sounds like someone who's never talked about computers before.
     
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    I recall reading that if you push a chip and it gets warm, there is electron bleed or tunneling, that consumes power. Since a smaller chip has less surface area, it gets warmer faster and retains the heat longer. Larger chip is a better heat sink and heat transfer unit. So several things are working in tandem here. 14 nam chip should be faster and consume less power, but when it heats up as both chips will do running at high loads, the warmer chip will have greater bleed. Using more power while at that state.

    When the wafers are produced each chip on the wafer will not have the same number of atoms deposited at each location. This is where the variation in the same chips comes from. We are really getting down to splitting atoms which makes splitting hairs look like using a bull dozen.
     
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    I don't know why, but I'm laughing so hard. Maybe it's the randomness of these comments or maybe the ridiculousness. I don't know, but it's funny.
     
  22. IphoneIssues macrumors 65816

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    Don't know why everyone always mentions this guy. He sounds like every other tech reviewer. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

    This is gold.
     
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    Oh look it's this overrated youtuber again. Seriously, who does this guy think he is? His reviews are no more in-depth than those found on sites like Engadget, verge, TechCrunch
     
  24. HEK macrumors 68030

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    The top sites for reviews, that other news uses as sources. How sad is that?
     

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