MKBHDS video review

[Apple_Robert]

I wish all the reviewers who mention the slow SSD speed would give an example of what effect that has in real life. Like he said it might slow down if it's using a bunch of swap file, but how much will it slow down? I'd like to see a demonstration of when that would happen and how much it slows down by.

The reason the clickbaiters don’t show it is because they can’t. All they have are meaningless benches and scare tactics.

 

[ian87w]

You are probably joking, but my M1 12.9 iPad Pro is officially my M2 MBA replacement now.

I’m now waiting for next year and see what the 3nm M3 MBA will bring.

Joking in context how many people here are making fun of iPadOS. Many are defending Apple and claiming that a Macbook Air users will only use the laptop for really basic tasks (eg just web browsing, not multitasking). That's the defense some people are pulling. In a sense blaming the user for Apple intentionally neutering their own product just to cut cost.

I too have embraced the post PC era, replacing my regular laptop with my Galaxy Tab. And it works fine. I only ended up buying my HP laptop because there's one Windows only program for work. Been doing the rest just fine on the Android tablet.

 

[ian87w]

Let's be more specific though. While Apple certainly isn't going to limit options for upgrading and making more money if one is intent on spending it, if you're trying to spec out an air to do what a MBP does, yeah, they want you to lean towards a MBP instead. You should want to lean towards a MBP instead.

This isn't some evil conspiracy by a greedy company looking to deceive us all.

Errr, Apple is not greedy? By definition they have to be greedy. The main purpose of a publicly traded company is to maximize their shareholder value. And look at Apple's own marketing. It's misleading. They showed the Macbook Air running Final Cut, and making claims of performance for the 13" Macbook Pro, while in reality they neuter the base model and don't disclose the significant performance discrepancy (even compared to the older M1 models). And typical Apple fashion, once it's exposed, they denied it and the defenders blame the users for "using the laptop wrong."

 

[ninethirty]

Errr, Apple is not greedy? By definition they have to be greedy. The main purpose of a publicly traded company is to maximize their shareholder value. And look at Apple's own marketing. It's misleading. They showed the Macbook Air running Final Cut, and making claims of performance for the 13" Macbook Pro, while in reality they neuter the base model and don't disclose the significant performance discrepancy (even compared to the older M1 models). And typical Apple fashion, once it's exposed, they denied it and the defenders blame the users for "using the laptop wrong."

At some point there has to be individual accountability and responsibility in relation to all this manufactured outrage. If a person thinks that much thinner, fanless machine is going to perform at the same level as a MBP, that's really on them for not putting two and two together. It doesn't matter if you frame it as blaming the users for "using the laptop wrong," because that's just a cop out. The fact is, if a person buys a base level MacBook Air (a machine aimed at a retail consumer audience) and is surprised to find that it isn't capable of sustained workloads that would be more typical for a pro machine, that person just isn't using their head.

The MacBook Air can run final cut, sure. Are you going to edit and assemble the next Star Wars trilogy on it? Get real.

 

[DavidChoux]

Here you go. Here's the multitasking section of our M2 MBP vs M1 MacBook Air video:

Hi Max Tech,

In your video titled "Does 512GB SSD FIX the M2 MacBook Pro? TRUTH about #SSDGate" you tested both the 256 and 512GB variants and concluded that the 256 was considerably slower due to the single NAND chip. Another user pointed out however the 256GB machine's SSD was near full capacity during the test, while the 512GB model had more free space.

Understandably the 256GB model would be slower since SSDs are slower when they are that close to full capacity, and that would affect all the tests like Lightroom, video editing and multitasking. So the results from the test are influenced both by the single SSD implementation AND the fact that the 256GB SSD was near capacity. Given this, it's unwise to conclude that the 256GB was slower solely because of the single SSD implementation. In other words you failed to control for a variable that you weren't aiming to test.

I noticed in your following videos trying to demonstrate the slower performance of the single SSD implementation it appears that the 256GB variant is also at near capacity.

It seems like your logic for testing the 256GB SSD at near full capacity is because you assume most users would have it nearly full anyway. But in that case, that's just giving advice not to use an SSD as small as 256GB and has no bearing on the affect of the single SSD chip implementation.

Could you redo the tests on the 256GB vs 512GB M2 Air without out the 256GB being at nearly full capacity? Have them both be at half capacity. That way you'll control for all the variables and isolate what you're purporting to test; that is the effect of the single NAND chip versus two NAND chips.

Thanks.

 

[Sammy in SoCal]

Hi Max Tech,

In your video titled "Does 512GB SSD FIX the M2 MacBook Pro? TRUTH about #SSDGate" you tested both the 256 and 512GB variants and concluded that the 256 was considerably slower due to the single NAND chip. Another user pointed out however the 256GB machine's SSD was near full capacity during the test, while the 512GB model had more free space.

Understandably the 256GB model would be slower since SSDs are slower when they are that close to full capacity, and that would affect all the tests like Lightroom, video editing and multitasking. So the results from the test are influenced both by the single SSD implementation AND the fact that the 256GB SSD was near capacity. Given this, it's unwise to conclude that the 256GB was slower solely because of the single SSD implementation. In other words you failed to control for a variable that you weren't aiming to test.

I noticed in your following videos trying to demonstrate the slower performance of the single SSD implementation it appears that the 256GB variant is also at near capacity.

It seems like your logic for testing the 256GB SSD at near full capacity is because you assume most users would have it nearly full anyway. But in that case, that's just giving advice not to use an SSD as small as 256GB and has no bearing on the affect of the single SSD chip implementation.

Could you redo the tests on the 256GB vs 512GB M2 Air without out the 256GB being at nearly full capacity? Have them both be at half capacity. That way you'll control for all the variables and isolate what you're purporting to test; that is the effect of the single NAND chip versus two NAND chips.

Thanks.

Hi DavidChouX,

Just cough 😷 up the extra 200$ and get the 512 SSD

Thanks.

 

[Pugly]

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