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ML Notes app on Mavericks

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zeemeerman2

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Is it possible tot get the Mountain Lion version working on Mavericks? Coming from Word, then notepad, the skeuomorphic design and interface of the Notes app really improves my workflow.
I want to upgrade to Mavericks when it's released, but this one tiny change of the Notes app still quirks me because it will probably mess up my workflow.

So is it possible to use the Mountain Lion version working (perhaps via little edits in the app package) or not? Thanks.
 
Have you looked into third-party notes apps that mimic Apple Notes? I've seen quite a few that range from "equally basic" to "we've added features." And a few follow that skeumorphic principle.
 
zeemeerman2 said:
the skeuomorphic design and interface of the Notes app really improves my workflow.
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:eek:

I guess there's a first for everything.

The Notes app in Mavrix now has the "Find" commands working again. You can search through your document text once again. Mountain Lion (and Lion) can't do that. Other than this, the functionality is the same so I don't know how the cheesy looks of the UI affect workflow.

As an alternative, there's always text edit.
 
Why notes ever even needed to exist is beyond me...

I never could figure out what was so wrong with with using TextEdit that Apple had to make the same application, but worse, with a paper background.

Plus there was already a Stickies app and pretty much everyone has Pages too.
 
w0lf said:
Why notes ever even needed to exist is beyond me...

I never could figure out what was so wrong with with using TextEdit that Apple had to make the same application, but worse, with a paper background.

Plus there was already a Stickies app and pretty much everyone has Pages too.
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It's a central location to jot down/paste bits of information and have it sync with iOS. The sync part is the biggest sell.


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w0lf said:
Why notes ever even needed to exist is beyond me...

I never could figure out what was so wrong with with using TextEdit that Apple had to make the same application, but worse, with a paper background.

Plus there was already a Stickies app and pretty much everyone has Pages too.
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exactly. sync. being able to keep my notes organized between my mac and my iphone is ESSENTIAL... :cool:
 
pickaxe said:
It's a central location to jot down/paste bits of information and have it sync with iOS. The sync part is the biggest sell.
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fisherking said:
exactly. sync. being able to keep my notes organized between my mac and my iphone is ESSENTIAL... :cool:
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They could have just allowed iOS Notes to sync documents with TextEdit. Or even better made TextEdit for iOS and removed Notes.
 
w0lf said:
They could have just allowed iOS Notes to sync documents with TextEdit. Or even better made TextEdit for iOS and removed Notes.
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Textedit isn't really suitable as a notepad.

I'm not sure why you're so against Notes.
 
Krazy Bill said:
:eek:

I guess there's a first for everything.

The Notes app in Mavrix now has the "Find" commands working again. You can search through your document text once again. Mountain Lion (and Lion) can't do that. Other than this, the functionality is the same so I don't know how the cheesy looks of the UI affect workflow.

As an alternative, there's always text edit.
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Make me a second then. I really enjoy the skeuomorphic design since it felt like a breath of fresh air to the UI of computer applications while conveying exactly what physical item they were trying to replace.
 
comics addict said:
while conveying exactly what physical item they were trying to replace.
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So the word "Notes" throws you off? :D

Just jerkin' your chain.

I go way back to the DOS days when silly-assed arrogant coders figured us feeble minded peons needed metaphors just to turn the machines on/off. I also drove vehicles with rabbits and turtles to denote acceleration.

In a nutshell, I've always found this kind of crap insulting.
 
Krazy Bill said:
So the word "Notes" throws you off? :D

Just jerkin' your chain.

I go way back to the DOS days when silly-assed arrogant coders figured us feeble minded peons needed metaphors just to turn the machines on/off. I also drove vehicles with rabbits and turtles to denote acceleration.

In a nutshell, I've always found this kind of crap insulting.
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No, what I refer to actually its that is visually appealing to me and makes me really enjoy working/viewing the app I am in. Try that with their new/old chrome look for apps like Calendar on Mavericks. The only reason I am gonna upgrade my Mac to 10.9 is for all the added features and improvements under the hood but I am wary of any UI changes until I get to see it.
 
comics addict said:
Sad that Apple is so hostile to it since Johnny Ive took over.
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No what is really sad is that none of these people ever spoke up when Apple was getting raked over the coals for having skeuomorphic elements in the UI.

But now that's its gone they want to come out of their shells and complain its gone. Serves them right.


I sort of liked it myself but it doesn't bother me that it's gone. The current "flat" trend is just another design/fashion trend that everyone will be running from a few years from now. Then skeumorphism or something else will be the "in" thing.
 
hmmm... I use the notes app in ML everyday and I've never had a problem with skeumorphism here but I won't mind it leaving either.

I think the problem is that unlike the new iOS 7, OSX doesn't have a fresh unified look so when you strip out skeumorphism you get strange bare looking apps especially true with the notes app. As long as it doesn't effect functionality I don't really care but it would be nice to see (in perhaps 10.10) OSX get an iOS 7 kind of makeover. Doesn't need to look like iOS 7 but something cohesive and different than what we have now would be nice.
 
The fact is that if you use the new notes app you will see that its really hard on the eyes. Line spacing between each one is terribly close and the lack of lines doesn't help either.

Also the font is really small. I always used Helvetica as the default font. Marker felt is disgusting.. I used a trick to make the default font size always a 20 pt.

But back to the original question posted here.. any tricks to make it look more like the old one in some ways?
 
w0lf said:
Why notes ever even needed to exist is beyond me...

I never could figure out what was so wrong with with using TextEdit that Apple had to make the same application, but worse, with a paper background.

Plus there was already a Stickies app and pretty much everyone has Pages too.
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1 reason, it syncs with iOS. They needed a basic text editor that would sync with iOS to get your ideas quickly back and forth, it wouldn't work if, pages, text edit or sticky notes synced with iOS because they are all different and then you would have to make a new notes app for iOS. It makes perfect sense, say your on the way to work and you suddenly come up with a great idea for a story you are writing as a hobby at home, you quickly whip out your iPhone and write it down. When you get home it's on your mac, ready to copy and paste from notes, or just read and rewrite.
 
fisherking said:
exactly. sync. being able to keep my notes organized between my mac and my iphone is ESSENTIAL... :cool:
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I use notes on my iPhone and I find it an essential day to day app for keeping my ideas/daily task notes in sync with my macbook pro. I personally don't mind the design of it, I never had an issue with skeuomorphic designs on iOS or OSX.

That being said, I do think that a design change was needed. As long as the core functionality of the notes app remains the same, I don't mind a design update.

Or maybe I'm biased...I do love brown leather and stitching on my tech :p

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newagemac said:
No what is really sad is that none of these people ever spoke up when Apple was getting raked over the coals for having skeuomorphic elements in the UI.
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Indeed. This shows that not only can you not please all of the people all of the time, it shows that people don't listen to other people's complaints.

Personally, I don't mind skeu, but not when it's taken to a ridiculous degree, which I think it was with things like the yellow leather trim. I would like a little more colour in my OS, though.
 
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