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Gregg2 said:
David Cone did it with 88.

But still, 99 is (obviously) an average of only 11 per inning. That is impressive. By definition, a perfect game will have a lower than usual pitch count, because there's never a ball four, and starting over with a new batter, likewise with a hit, error, etc.

Yeah, the pitcher throws a perfect game, but the defense has to make all the plays cleanly. I suspect, however, that more almost perfect game efforts are spoiled by batters reaching base some other way. To be more precise, I would expect that an error ending a perfect game occurs less than any other "spoiler" event taken individually.
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88... that is freaking amazing.
 
Saw the highlights this morning... Way to go Elly De La Cruz of the Reds!! Steels, 2nd, 3rd, and finally home! It was pretty darn cool to see! The announcers did a really good job IMHO and they made it that much better!
 
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Silencio said:
The Giants have a grand total of 1 complete game this year, by Alex Cobb. Logan Webb is the only other viable candidate to throw over 100 pitches in a start.
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Right on cue, Logan Webb threw a complete game shutout on Sunday. Hope he can find more consistency in the second half — he has everything required to be one of the top pitchers in the league.
 
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Really hard to believe that 2012 was the last time the NL won the All-Star Game. As much as I've largely ignored the "Midsummer Classic" since the mid-90s, 2012 was my favorite ASG due to the NL having 4 Giants' starters who all delivered the goods: Matt Cain was the winning pitcher, and the since disgraced Melky Cabrera was MVP. Pablo Sandoval got the big hit off Justin Verlander to break open the game in the first inning.

This time around, Camilo Doval was the winning pitcher. So clearly the key to All-Star success is for the National League to select more Giants pitchers.

Nevertheless, I'm still kind of traumatized by Atlee Hammaker's dismal performance in the 1983 All-Star Game. Some wounds never fully heal.
 
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The All-Star Game has become a showcase for pitiful sports broadcasting. At least by the bottom of the ninth they were focused on the Game. All the crap before that detracts from the Game. It's not the All-Star Talk Show. Put that mindless junk in the Pre-Game or Post-Game shows.

They should have two broadcasts. Go ahead with all the mic'd players and "Analysts" acting like little boys in the front row in one of them, and do the Game in the other one. Let the ratings tell the network execs what the fans like. The money will follow the more popular version. Advertisers will pay more for more eyes and ears.
 
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While I really enjoyed this year's HRD and ASG being in Seattle (living in the PNW myself), every year, it gets cheesier and cheesier. I threw in the towel when they were trying to do an in-game interview with Nathan Eovaldi as he was trying to pitch. I know it's an exhibition game but come on, the guy has one job to do and answering live questions mid pitch is beyond stupid.
 
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Looking through the comments and posts on Bleacher Report, it's hi-larious that people think that Ohtani would willingly land anywhere on the East Coast next year.

Dude is going to be handed offers of $500 million+ and only 2-3 teams can afford that. The Mets, Dodgers and maybe the Mariners.

But I'm also not ruling out Moreno selling off the entire roster, calling up the cheap AAA prospects in order to afford Ohtani for the rest of his career either...

Trying to be as unbiased as I can, I think Ohtani and Seattle make sense and the crowd at T-Mobile park the other night let him know about it too. He even said that he spends a lot of the offseason in Seattle as well.

That being said...

The Dodgers are going to be the Dodgers and will bring in a fleet of armored bank trucks, packed with money and say "How much would you like?"
 
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Gregg2 said:
The All-Star Game has become a showcase for pitiful sports broadcasting. At least by the bottom of the ninth they were focused on the Game. All the crap before that detracts from the Game. It's not the All-Star Talk Show. Put that mindless junk in the Pre-Game or Post-Game shows.

They should have two broadcasts. Go ahead with all the mic'd players and "Analysts" acting like little boys in the front row in one of them, and do the Game in the other one. Let the ratings tell the network execs what the fans like. The money will follow the more popular version. Advertisers will pay more for more eyes and ears.
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I hate all all star games.
 
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The MLB All-Star Game used to be the least bad of the major American sports, but it's become just as unwatchable as the rest of 'em.

Giants are playing well coming out of the break. Good pitching and clutch hitting helped them to a sweep at Pittsburgh, though the Pirates' defense also kind of let them down at key moments in a couple of the games.

Speaking of the Pirates, I'd love to go to PNC Park one day. Their ballpark is a jewel. It'll be hard to top Pacific Bell/SBC/AT&T/Oracle Park in my mind, but I'm looking forward to giving it a fair chance.
 
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Silencio said:
Speaking of the Pirates, I'd love to go to PNC Park one day. Their ballpark is a jewel. It'll be hard to top Pacific Bell/SBC/AT&T/Oracle Park in my mind, but I'm looking forward to giving it a fair chance.
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The only reason I have to go to Pittsburgh is to visit that park. Really want to see it, but I think I want to wait until the Clamente Bridge is done. It's a bummer it's still under retrofit.
 
jedimasterkyle said:
Looking through the comments and posts on Bleacher Report, it's hi-larious that people think that Ohtani would willingly land anywhere on the East Coast next year.
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I don't think the Angels would willingly trade Ohtani to the Dodgers. Different leagues, but still same-city competitors. The Dodgers would have to really stack the deck to get the Angels to bite. MLB players, prospects, draft picks AND money. Or the Dodgers could just let some team rent Ohtani, then get him in free agency. But I would think any team trading for Ohtani would be pretty sure they could sign him to a long term deal. $500 to $600 million is the expected deal cost. And I agree, I don't think an east coast team is what Ohtani would want.

And the Dodgers would be appealing to Ohtani. A playoff contender every year and he wouldn't even have to move in-season. And still the closest to his home in Japan.
 
Silencio said:
The MLB All-Star Game used to be the least bad of the major American sports, but it's become just as unwatchable as the rest of 'em.

Giants are playing well coming out of the break. Good pitching and clutch hitting helped them to a sweep at Pittsburgh, though the Pirates' defense also kind of let them down at key moments in a couple of the games.

Speaking of the Pirates, I'd love to go to PNC Park one day. Their ballpark is a jewel. It'll be hard to top Pacific Bell/SBC/AT&T/Oracle Park in my mind, but I'm looking forward to giving it a fair chance.
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Same.
 
Rafterman said:
And the Dodgers would be appealing to Ohtani. A playoff contender every year and he wouldn't even have to move in-season. And still the closest to his home in Japan.
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Not sure which, but either SF or Seattle* would beat LA. (Discounting the Oakland/LV Athletics) LA is actually farther east than Reno. But anyway, would this make a difference to him? Four hours longer in flight from a city in the Midwest, or six hours longer from the east doesn't seem like a big deal for a once or twice a year trip. I think it will be the money and the length of the contract that will overrule distance from Japan.

* Well, taking a fresh look at a map rather than relying on memory, Seattle is clearly too far north (and not on the west coast) to give SF a run for the title of Closest MLB City to Japan. But any of the cities in the Pacific Time Zone would have multiple options for flights there.
 
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Gregg2 said:
Not sure which, but either SF or Seattle would beat LA. (Discounting the Oakland/LV Athletics) LA is actually farther east than Reno. But anyway, would this make a difference to him? Four hours longer in flight from a city in the Midwest, or six hours longer from the east doesn't seem like a big deal for a once or twice a year trip. I think it will be the money and the length of the contract that will overrule distance from Japan.
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I agree. I really think the best positioned suitors for Ohtani will be the Dodgers, Giants or Mariners. San Diego is a dumpster fire of their own making so he'll pass on that. Oakland is Oakland so that's a fast and hard no and he already knows he wont get to the post season with the Angels.

I could see the Dodgers and Giants offering stupid amounts of money for him. At the same time, Seattle might be slightly more tempting for him, given the Ichiro connection and how much time he spends there in the offseason. The biggest achilles heel with Seattle will be their payroll flexibility which doesnt compare to the Giants or Dodgers. If Seattle wants to land him, they'll have to fork over the biggest paycheck they've ever written and not sign anyone else for the next couple of years.
 
I don't think Seattle could afford him and can't afford to cripple their organization by not having payroll flexibility to bring in more guys. Dodgers, SF most likely IMO.

Ohtani is a huge atendence draw though. If the Angels trade him, they will end up with Oakland-like attendance.
 
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Rafterman said:
Ohtani is a huge atendence draw though. If the Angels trade him, they will end up with Oakland-like attendance.
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Whether he's traded or signs elsewhere, their attendance drop was inevitable. When you remove Trout and Ohtani from the equation, the Angels lineup is about as mediocre as it gets. Trout has been hurt one way or another since forever and it takes him out for half of the season. Ohtani was the solution to that problem but once he's gone, the Angels dont have another "Trout-like" player to take that spot.

The ONLY way the Angels retain their attendance numbers is if they either A, dont trade Ohtani this year or B, sign him in the offseason while competing against the Dogers, Giants and Mariners.

Because of the stupid amount of money that has been spent on Trout and Rendon, I dont see how Morreno has the cash for Ohtani.
 
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maflynn said:
Why not the Padre's or Yankees? Both of those franchises have a history of over spending just as much as the Dodgers.
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Youre not wrong. With SD and NY, they certainly could make a bid for Ohtani but the likelihood of either one of them is next to zero. Ohtani has already said that he would prefer a west coast team, probably because of proximity to Japan.

With SD, they already have 3 contracts that they overspent on (Machado, Tatis jr. and Xander). Those three contracts alone make up what Ohtani will probably be offered in FA. There's a reason why SD hasnt signed Juan Soto to the mega deal he should have taken with the Nats lol. Theyre flat broke and the owner is pinching the pennies again.

As for NY, I just dont see it happening. I dont see Steinbrenner being ok with paying Ohtani AND going over the luxury tax by a lot. He's already got that problem with Judge, Stanton and Cole.

NY and SD might try to trade for him but signing him long term, nope.

Speaking of NY, Steve Cohen laughs at the luxury tax but he's ready to nuke the Mets as is so I dont see him going after Ohtani either.
 
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