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Silencio

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Still a lot of high level free agents left on the table. Wonder when we'll see some more movement in the market.
 
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rhett7660

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Spring Training is right around the corner!

Recap of the offseason:


This will be in an interesting season for the Dodgers, anything short of winning it all will seem like an utter failure for the team.
 

Herdfan

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Here in SW Florida we’re ramping up for an influx of fans for spring training. Looking forward to catching a few games myself.

Same. Sort of. :)

First spring in AZ and will definitely hit some spring training sites. Went to the D-Backs/Rockies site this winter as they use the main field for Christmas lights and a skating rink.

But I do remember college spring breaks with my GF who's dad lived in Vero Beach. Spent many a day at Dodgertown. But now I can go see Ohtani here. :)
 
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TechRunner

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Same. Sort of. :)

First spring in AZ and will definitely hit some spring training sites. Went to the D-Backs/Rockies site this winter as they use the main field for Christmas lights and a skating rink.

But I do remember college spring breaks with my GF who's dad lived in Vero Beach. Spent many a day at Dodgertown. But now I can go see Ohtani here. :)
I'm in a pretty good spot here. I'm 20 minutes from the Rays facility, 30 from the Braves, and 45 from both the Red Sox and Twins. To see my Cardinals it's 3 hours cross-state, so I may/may not make that trip this year.
 

Herdfan

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I'm in a pretty good spot here. I'm 20 minutes from the Rays facility, 30 from the Braves, and 45 from both the Red Sox and Twins. To see my Cardinals it's 3 hours cross-state, so I may/may not make that trip this year.

Ah, the beauty of the Cactus League. All parks are within 45 minutes or so of each other.
 

TheIntruder

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This will be in an interesting season for the Dodgers, anything short of winning it all will seem like an utter failure for the team.

So…pretty much the same as it has been for much of the past decade…

…where they've regularly ruled the NL West, won pennants, and spent like thieves, but have a sole WS championship to show for it, during the truncated Covid season.

Go Dodgers! ;)

While Ohtani may indeed help get them over the top, I generally don't subscribe to the Big Free Agent = Championships Rule.

It's a team game, and what do the Angels have to show for Ohtani + Trout?

I'm a "farm system" guy.
 
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Rafterman

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So…pretty much the same as it has been for much of the past decade…

…where they've regularly ruled the NL West, won pennants, and spent like thieves, but have a sole WS championship to show for it, during the truncated Covid season.

Go Dodgers! ;)

While Ohtani may indeed help get them over the top, I generally don't subscribe to the Big Free Agent = Championships Rule.

It's a team game, and what do the Angels have to show for Ohtani + Trout?

I'm a "farm system" guy.

Especially baseball, which is more prone to upsets in the playoffs. Plus, in Ohtani's case, they have half a player for next season - he's only going to hit, because of his surgery.
 

jeremz1ne

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So…pretty much the same as it has been for much of the past decade…

…where they've regularly ruled the NL West, won pennants, and spent like thieves, but have a sole WS championship to show for it, during the truncated Covid season.

Go Dodgers! ;)

While Ohtani may indeed help get them over the top, I generally don't subscribe to the Big Free Agent = Championships Rule.

It's a team game, and what do the Angels have to show for Ohtani + Trout?

I'm a "farm system" guy.
Angels cant get pitching to save theirs lives, starting pitching was awful not to mention the blowpen being trash 2nd half of the season same story everyyear Artie needs to sell the team to someone who wants to win
 

jedimasterkyle

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Angels cant get pitching to save theirs lives, starting pitching was awful not to mention the blowpen being trash 2nd half of the season same story everyyear Artie needs to sell the team to someone who wants to win
Artie letting Ohtani get away has forever ruined his legacy with the Angels as far as I'm concerned. It wouldn't shock me one bit if Trout starts saying "I want out" before too long.
 

TechRunner

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Artie letting Ohtani get away has forever ruined his legacy with the Angels as far as I'm concerned. It wouldn't shock me one bit if Trout starts saying "I want out" before too long.
If anyone deserves a WS ring it’s Mike Trout, and I doubt he gets one with the Angels. If he’s not already asking to get out, he should be!
 

jedimasterkyle

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Also, this needs a very special shoutout! Supremely awesome to see the game growing like this 🤘

 

Herdfan

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Ok, this is interesting:


So the LV Mayor want the A's to find a way to stay in Oakland. Hmmmm.

Now I will admit that where they want to put the stadium is going to create a huge traffic mess (corner of The Strip and Tropicana). But is she really telling a pro sports team to not come to her city?

If the team can't work out a deal to stay in Oakland, she wants them to build a new stadium in North LV. I don't think this will get the tourists out to the games which I'm sure is a big part of the plan.

Not sure why they can't find a way to put it over by Allegiant Stadium and be able to share parking and maybe extend the monorail over there.
 
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TheIntruder

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Ok, this is interesting:


So the LV Mayor want the A's to find a way to stay in Oakland. Hmmmm.

Now I will admit that where they want to put the stadium is going to create a huge traffic mess (corner of The Strip and Tropicana). But is she really telling a pro sports team to not come to her city?

If the team can't work out a deal to stay in Oakland, she wants them to build a new stadium in North LV. I don't think this will get the tourists out to the games which I'm sure is a big part of the plan.

Not sure why they can't find a way to put it over by Allegiant Stadium and be able to share parking and maybe extend the monorail over there.

Isn't the position of LV mayor mostly ceremonial?

Regardless, the whole deal with the A's is a case study in how poor ownership and inept governments can manage to destroy a once proud, and successful franchise.

The whole deal with the A's is a fustercluck from top to bottom, with the fans being the ultimate victims, and taxpayers footing the bill.
 
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jedimasterkyle

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The whole deal with the A's is a fustercluck from top to bottom, with the fans being the ultimate victims, and taxpayers footing the bill.
Couldn't agree more but that last statement about taxpayers footing the bill for a stadium is ***** insane to me.

I didn't think anyone would agree to let their tax money go towards the construction of a privately owned stadium. It's one thing to shell out for tickets and merch. It's an ENTIRELY different matter to ask the public to fork over billions for a stadium that they will have to shell out even more money for just to watch a team. Personally, I think if you're going to ask the public to fund a stadium, then the fanbase should get stock options and be labeled as legitimate investors and not just "fans".

But, the A's owner is a giant ass-clown so him asking for public funds to build a new stadium while he hoards billions in profits is the billionaires way...

There's also this too:

 
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jeremz1ne

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Sad that people in Nevada like myself will have to foot the bill for something we dont want, maybe make the Casinos pay for some of it... since they'll be getting tickets to give away to those "VIP" guest etc just like they do for the Raider games
 
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TheIntruder

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Couldn't agree more but that last statement about taxpayers footing the bill for a stadium is ***** insane to me.

I didn't think anyone would agree to let their tax money go towards the construction of a privately owned stadium. It's one thing to shell out for tickets and merch. It's an ENTIRELY different matter to ask the public to fork over billions for a stadium that they will have to shell out even more money for just to watch a team. Personally, I think if you're going to ask the public to fund a stadium, then the fanbase should get stock options and be labeled as legitimate investors and not just "fans".

But, the A's owner is a giant ass-clown so him asking for public funds to build a new stadium while he hoards billions in profits is the billionaires way...

There's also this too:


Being the owner of a professional sports franchise is a great grift, if one can manage to join that exclusive club.

Getting people to involuntarily invest in your private business, to enhance its value and your own personal wealth, when you're already a wealthy person? How can I sign up for that?

There's a Stanford economics professor who specializes in studying sports business, and he finds that the promised economic benefits associated with such projects are often unrealistic, and the operational numbers just don't add up.

At least with a baseball stadium, it's guaranteed 81 events per season. A multi-billion dollar football stadium will host eight games, plus maybe a couple pre-season games, or a playoff game or two.

Other events, like concerts, dirt racing, and such, can be used to flesh out the calendar and better utilize a facility, but a city like LV isn't exactly lacking in event venues, is it?

To add insult to injury, with the A's, the local city and county governments co-owned the land under their existing stadium. But, in a stunningly dumb move, the county sold its interest to the team's owner, without securing any sort of requirement that it would stay, so he not only gets to skip town, but still owns the land.

Understandably, the county was compelled to bail, because it wanted to liberate itself from the albatross of the facility, and the sweetheart deal used to lure the Raiders back to the city, but local taxpayers will still be paying the price for that grift for years to come.

Now, one has skipped town for Vegas, and the other is going to as well, and local taxpayers in both areas will be on the hook.
 

jedimasterkyle

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I like the fact that we can watch 4 games at once now. I can watch the Red Sox and Mariners collapse at the same time while watching the Dodgers steamroll whomever and maybe I'll watch a Cubs game just for the hell out of it lol.
 
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