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Here is a great article on why Apple should make MobileMe free for the basics, and combine it with iTunes.

Microsoft and Google are trying for the same thing, to have one login, that lets you access anything (check your gmail/hotmail, buy music, photos etc) from anywhere and from any device.

Ironically, between the iTunes store, the recent purchase of Lala (cloud based iTunes), AppleTV and mobileme, Apple is in a far better position than either Microsoft or Google, to get their customers into one all in login id, that lets them access all their apps, download all their music, share and access their photos and email, from any device with internet access.

The article makes a fantastic point...

http://gizmodo.com/5552953/why-arent-i-the-center-of-the-apple-universe?skyline=true&s=i

A partial excerpt of the article follows...

Why Aren't I the Center of the Apple Universe?

You can sum up the most frustrating thing about being an Apple customer in three little words: "Connect to iTunes."

As a Google customer, life is easy: one log-in account; access to all your files from any computer; and soon, a smearing of the line between desktop and mobile device, as Android gains the ability to elegantly complement with your desktop browsing experience. As long as you have internet, you have Google—and every bit of data you've stored with them.

Yet when 300,000 people turned on their iPad for the first time last month, their first experience wasn't magical or revolutionary. It was depressingly retro. That little slice of the future was unusable out of the box because it's just as slavishly umbilicated to a desktop computer by the same white cable as the nearly decade-old iPod.

The iPad's embarrassing out-of-box experience is the most pointed and recent manifestation of Apple's deeper problem, one set to grow profoundly more dangerous (as Google made excruciatingly clear last week): Apple is flailing at the internet. But there's a way to fix it, right now.



.. (excerpted) ..
MobileMe
MobileMe is Apple's cloud service "for the rest of us." But it's $100 a year. The rub is that everything it does—email, contacts sync, photos, online storage—another service does just as well, or even better, for free. (Except the valuable Find My iPhone service.) Google syncs contacts and pushes email, using Exchange; Flickr has way more features and a massive community; and the seamlessness of Dropbox's file syncing and storage, across PCs, Macs, iPads and phones, puts iDisk to utter shame.

MobileMe's services, writ large, really aren't perks anymore. They're table stakes. If you buy a Mac or iPad or iPhone, it should have MobileMe. It's not unreasonable to expect built-in contact syncing, online photogalleries to share photos and a smidge of in-the-cloud storage—basic internet services—as a part of your computer package, especially from the company who's supposed to make computing easier. A computer for most people anymore is simply a way to get on the internet. Why not make that a nicer, more pleasant experience?

We don't expect MobileMe to suddenly become much richer, so freemium is the obvious way to make it happen: Email, contact syncing, and 5GB for photos and storage, free. The truly optional features—extra storage and Find My iPhone—could run $60-$100 a year. It would make the Mac experience that much more powerful, while nudging Apple toward being more of an internet company. (We're not the only one who's had this idea, it turns out.)

And if MobileMe is free, Apple has a brand new entrenchment, a starting point of something much grander.


iTunes and the iDentity Problem
iTunes has been an internet store from the very beginning; its roots are in the web. So it's not surprising that iTunes has proven to be Apple's most flexible limb, punking and bloating like a demonic anime villain from a simple online music store to music-movies-television-books-apps-and-more bazaar.

Itunes' most valuable asset, though, isn't all of that stuff. It's the iTunes ID, of which there are many tens of millions more than MobileMe accounts. You can see where this going: Unify MobileMe and iTunes ID into a single identity. (Again, it turns out, we weren't the only one with this idea.) Part of the power of Google's services is that a single core identity ties all of them together—Gmail, Reader, Talk, Search, everything—so Apple's redefined, redesigned internet services should be the same. One account for email, music, storage, photos, iWork—everything, basically.

The other big problem with iTunes (excerpted)...
 
It would be nice if I was able to combine my MobileMe, Apple.com account, iTunes account, and Apple forums account into one (or at least link them together).
 
It would be nice if I was able to combine my MobileMe, Apple.com account, iTunes account, and Apple forums account into one (or at least link them together).

You can already use your MobileMe login for all of those. But you can't merge them if you're using different logins, which I think is what you mean. You really should be able to.
 
If they do this, wouldn't Apple just be copying Google and MS? This forum has many members who accuse Google and MS of copying everything Apple does. I'm not sure who had the idea of a single sign-on first, Google or Microsoft, but surly Apple wouldn't copy another company's innovation.
 
Would Apple make it completely free for everyone?

On one hand, I wish they would make it only available to people with registered Macs and/or iPhones... those are already high margin products and they could afford to include a relatively high quality cloud service product for free. They could include, say, every feature thats currently in MobileMe with maybe 10GB of storage. They could also just skip having ads. Basically provide Apple customers with exclusive access to HIGHER QUALITY cloud services than Google could ever afford to provide with an ad-supported model. Reduces privacy concerns (of contextual advertising) and would stop a flood of people from taking all the good @me.com email aliases. I know, Apple rarely misses the opportunity to charge their users, but cloud integration could become a huge selling point of their hardware. Its hard to sell intelligent consumers on cloud integration when they know that they're going to have to spend $70-$100/year in perpetuity in order to keep their email address and not have to cludge up some method of exporting their contacts and calendars.

On the other hand, Apple might want to offer their free cloud service on a wider basis, and include really good Apple product integration to encourage random people to become Apple customers. "Oh, this is great webmail, web calendar, and cloud storage, but if I only had an iPhone I could get it pushed to me wherever I went, and I could view files in my storage on my phone, and email people download links to my files right on my phone..."

I hope something like the former emerges.
 
Would Apple make it completely free for everyone?

On one hand, I wish they would make it only available to people with registered Macs and/or iPhones... those are already high margin products and they could afford to include a relatively high quality cloud service product for free. They could include, say, every feature thats currently in MobileMe with maybe 10GB of storage. They could also just skip having ads. Basically provide Apple customers with exclusive access to HIGHER QUALITY cloud services than Google could ever afford to provide with an ad-supported model. Reduces privacy concerns (of contextual advertising) and would stop a flood of people from taking all the good @me.com email aliases. I know, Apple rarely misses the opportunity to charge their users, but cloud integration could become a huge selling point of their hardware. Its hard to sell intelligent consumers on cloud integration when they know that they're going to have to spend $70-$100/year in perpetuity in order to keep their email address and not have to cludge up some method of exporting their contacts and calendars.

On the other hand, Apple might want to offer their free cloud service on a wider basis, and include really good Apple product integration to encourage random people to become Apple customers. "Oh, this is great webmail, web calendar, and cloud storage, but if I only had an iPhone I could get it pushed to me wherever I went, and I could view files in my storage on my friend, and email people download links to my files right on my phone..."

I hope something like the former emerges.

They could drop the price for the lesser features version.
 
Chances are, you'll make a mobile me ID and link it with your itunes email login. Then you'll start logging in iTunes with this new mobile me ID
 
If they do this, wouldn't Apple just be copying Google and MS? This forum has many members who accuse Google and MS of copying everything Apple does. I'm not sure who had the idea of a single sign-on first, Google or Microsoft, but surly Apple wouldn't copy another company's innovation.

LMAO. Something like having the same login for multiple accounts isn't an innovation. It's common sense, and companies have been offering it long before Microsoft or Google.

Innovations applies to things like multitouch, and pinch to zoom. Besides all electronics companies borrow and feed off of of each other's ideas and innovations. It would suck if they didn't. They wouldn't be able to include a front facing camera or flash for the rear camera in the new iPhone since companies have been doing that long before apple.

The iPod and the iPhone borrowed off tons of ideas from competing devices over the years.
 
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