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Mockups of a 4.94-Inch 'iPhone Plus' Show Why a Larger iPhone Might Make Sense

rdettogni said:
The awkward moment when everyone is more excited about the next samsung galaxy, and not about the next iPhone. Right?

The next samsung galaxy is rumored to have an AMOLED with 441 ppi. An octa core chip, etc...

According to this the next iPhone would be very similar to the current one or you could have a bigger version with lower screen resolution.

Dark times for Apple!

I always thought that I would replace my lumia 800 by an iPhone, but samsung is taking the first spot.
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I didn't think at all about Samsung until I actually used an S2 at Xmas and realised actually it worked pretty well and wasn't this monster sized product you read about here. Still very happy with my new S3 and impressed with Google Now. My iPhone 4 screen looks tiny by comparison - I can see why I read much more content on the Galaxy.

If Apple make a iPhone with an S3 sized screen I'd be interested in coming back - I have a shedload of Apple apps I can only use on my iPad ATM :rolleyes:
 
I'm a middle aged professional in an office trying to go paperless. iPhone is always on my hip in a holster, BT in my ear, iPad (regular) in a portfolio instead of a briefcase full of paper files.

Now, if an iPhone plus can handle 70% of this combo and be used in a holster, I'm in like Flynn. And instead of getting the least capacity iPhone (since my necessary files, manuals, media, etc., are on my 64 gb iPad), I'd get the biggest. The iPad would be relegated to a backup device, or be used to show copies of documents to 3rd parties. It would be replaced (maybe) if it died, period.

And that's why I think Apple will NOT come out with such a device; it wants to sell me a phone AND a tablet, not two devices in one.
 
Drunken Master said:
The guy's been dead for a little over a year, what do you want from Apple?
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What I want from Apple?

Three things.

First: computers that run circles around PC competitors when it comes to power. There was a time Apple did find this to be important. Now it seems to go about screen sizes..... how innovative is that?

Second: stability. I don't care if Apple stop producing the Mac Pro line as long they come up with a new product that will be even faster to catch up the demand for serious power in the professional field.

Third: be more open about what they themselves 'want'. It's pretty vague what Apple is doing or planning to do. Let's say that you're an photographer, then most, i.m.h.o. all of them, companies bring out news of things to come. So you as a customer can decide if you'll save money to get that new camera-lens or not. Secrecy is fun when it's about things that doesn't matter. Will the iPad be 0,001% thinner in the next update or not? It's fun for Apple fanboys and consumers of these gadgets love to speculate about it, pages full of it....

But when it comes to things that does matter, like a whole line-up of computers, will they be replaced or not? And if yes, by what? Those things cost serious amount of money spend by the consumers for their studio's or offices. Be open about it, so consumers can count on it and decide for themselves what to do with it.
 
If they can make the iphone maybe 1/4 inch wider and 1/2 taller, that would provide a lot more space for battery, and hopefully could get another 4 hours of battery life out of it. That would give me a solid day of use at that point. Right now if i'm on it pretty heavy, it dies out around 6pm. If I could get to 10 or 11pm that'd be a win for me
 
This image is exactly the reason Apple can go bigger. The current chunky iPhone design looks awful compared to the other sleek, curved designs of the high-end Android and Windows phones and they could not keep it the same proportions as the mockup.

They wouldn't even have to go much taller, just lose the chunk and as far as I'm concerned, loose the 16:9 aspect ration. It's worthless on a phone:

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Personally, I think Apple has painted themselves in a corner they can't get out of. Keeping 16:9 while going 4.9" is a waste of time because it would still be too damn skinny. I doubt one single person ever said "you know, I like the skinny iPhone, but if it was just taller...." This image shows how much better the phone's aspect ration on the left is. The iPhone 5 is nearly the same height, but that extra height is worthless when the screen is so skinny.
 
Sedrick said:
This image is exactly the reason Apple can go bigger. The current chunky iPhone design looks awful compared to the other sleek, curved designs of the high-end Android and Windows phones
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Bzzzt. Wrong.

You're telling me the Nexus 4 is a good-looking phone?

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I definitely want an iPhone with such a larger screen. Why? Because my main use of the iPhone is for its apps, which involve reading, e.g. Kindle, Flipboard, reading emails, Facebook. Moreover, when it comes to typing, the Apple keys in vertical mode are still too small, with lots of mistyping. A larger iPhone screen would excel for reading and typing, and would still be smaller enough to fit in a pocket.

There comes a point when you ask yourself: does a company exist solely to make money, or to provide products to make people's lives more productive. I'd say it's a good balance of the two, not either or. Therefore, a company that has accumulated so much cash, but not provided products over a range of uses, means that the company has selected those markets that make the greatest profits, while neglecting smaller markets.

To the capitalists, this is the paramount ideal - to make tons of money.

But if a company also exists to provide products that many people want, Apple has chosen the profits ahead of meeting people's needs. Apple is slow to the game.

I am sick of Apple saying it won't do something, and then years later doing it.

It can't do a netbook-sized Mac, and then it comes out with the MacBook Air.

It can't do small iPad, then comes out with the iPad Mini.

Apple, just stuff this silly idea of doing what you want -- well, not totally -- but at least admit that meeting customers felt-needs is not such a blasphemous thing to do.
 
JaySoul said:
"Apple never react to market trends..."

iPad Mini?
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Apple will never stoop so low as to build an iPad smaller than 9.7"...Oops

Apple would never respond to market demands... Oops

Apple _tells people what they want... Oops

Sounds like a Brittany Moment... Oops They Did It Again

It's the New Apple Business Model.

Why do R&D and innovate when following is cheaper?

iPhone Plus... I'll take two. As long as I don't have to wait two more generations for Apple to make up their mind to build it.

Apple... ya gotta love em :D
 
I think they will eventually go there just because the market will force them. But, like most other things with Apple, they will be drug along kicking and screaming 2 years after the rest of the market.

On the plus side.....they will probably execute it better than everyone else. So better late than never I suppose and by the time they come out with it we all will have moved onto some other nagging complaint for how Apple isn't "innovating".
 
the screen could be bigger of the iphone 5 but then in width and not making the phone have more width....make the bezel shorter.
 
dkersten said:
Would only be interested if the resolution was higher than the iPhone 5. Otherwise there are no advantages to a larger screen
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That's like saying if i have a 32 inch tv that is 1080p, there is no advantage in buying a 60 inch tv that is 1080p.....

Games and Netflix would be a LOT more enjoyable on a bigger iphone with the same resolution. Or maybe you just have TINY fingers and don't mind missing half the screen when playing a game (have you seen the Samsung commercial? :) or maybe you like squinting at small screens when you watch shows.

Or MAYBE you don't game or use your iphone for video consumption and then i would ask why you have one of the most expensive smartphones in the first place but at the very least you should have said....."Otherwise there are no advantages FOR ME going to a larger screen, but MANY other people would benefit greatly"

So many people think the world revolves around them and that no one else would use a product different than they do. Oh, Apple customers lol......
 
a miss step

Sedrick said:
Personally, I think Apple has painted themselves in a corner they can't get out of. Keeping 16:9 while going 4.9" is a waste of time because it would still be too damn skinny. I doubt one single person ever said "you know, I like the skinny iPhone, but if it was just taller...." This image shows how much better the phone's aspect ration on the left is. The iPhone 5 is nearly the same height, but that extra height is worthless when the screen is so skinny.
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This. Apple should have made the iPhone 5 wider as well as taller (and yes add more pixels to the width and preserved the PPI). This skinny, longer form factor was definitely a miss-step. It certainly put me off upgrading from an iPhone 4.
 
If developers would be allowed to support not all iPhones that is a good thing. Currently you have to support all screen sizes with you App the new iphone 5 and the old one.

Even more screen sizes would mean even more work.
More work would mean higher prizes.
But since most customers expect 0.99 Cent or Freemium Crap this leads to one logical conclusion.

Don't develop for the iPhone anymore.

It is rather simple, if you have to adept to different screen sizes anyway you might as well develop for Android straightaway as it is more widespread.

Apple is hurting themselves with their greed.

bushido said:
not with the current aspect ratio of the iPhone. u barely have any benefit on websites with a 16:9 screen

why is apple so stuck on pleasing the devs anyway? isnt that their job ... to program duh?

if no one would innovate just to please the devs we'd still be playing snake 1 on a black and white screen ;)
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Because they have learned from their windows disaster. Windows simple had more software and was more widespread.

It is rather simple:

The smartphone as you buy it is pretty much useless with only the stock apps.

Now add the App Store with a great selection of Apps.

Developers would like to make some money too, you know. If Apple treats the developers too bad, what do you think will happen. Yes, they will go to that other platform called Android.

And FYI the job of a developer is not to program it is like any other job a means to an end.
Earning money.

You can see it like a restaurant.
Apple is the restaurant owner.
You are the customer.
Developers are the cooks.

If the restaurant owner threats their cooks badly they will go somewhere else and you are left with a worthless piece of techojunk or to keep the metaphor. You will only get bad food(Apps) from the second class cooks(Developers) who stayed behind.

Innovation is one side of the medal, I hope I was able to enlighten you to see a little bit of the other side as well.
 
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Dr McKay said:
Yes I dont know how I cope walking about with this Plasma TV in my pocket. Look how dinky the iPhone 5 looks next to it. :D
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shurcooL said:
Larger screens are popular PRECISELY because you can fit more information and content there. Not because of larger pixels.

This would be so useless.

Also, 16:9 sucks for phones. It's too narrow in portrait and short in landscape. See how narrow it feels?
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Gosh, I sure do love my Nexus 4 :D That is one gooooood looking phone!
 
I seriously want/need an iPhone screen sized up to the Galaxy S. The screen is taller and not wider? After a week of using it I was annoyed that the phone was still so narrow.
 
saturn88 said:
Is the tiny text and tiny soft keyboard good for usability? And, by the way I still can easily operate my 4.8" phone with single hand.
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This is why you use a higher dpi screen and intuitive features that make a soft keyboard more useful than a tactile one.... or voice dictation which I also have on my Macbook Retina that displays small text so crisply and clearly I can read it even with my lousy vision, much better than I can read on a lower dpi display. Voice dictation is extremely useful particularly when in situations where I can't type at all (in the car, for example)... where a physical keyboard wouldn't benefit me one bit.

You can implement creative solutions like that, what you can't do is make a person's hand bigger.
 
mcfrazieriv said:
Why did anyone actually waste their time in making these composites? :confused:

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Originally Posted by burnside: "Why did you waste your time with that comment?"

Because it isn't a waste of time to stop and wonder why people would take time to do what has historically not worked in the past? Apple nearly died when they decided that innovation wasn't as important as providing choice. Remember the early 90's when there were so many Apple models that had only one or two differences and how each of these models clouded/confused the customer?
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Appearantly, this approach works for Samsung. Galaxy Note II, SIII, SII Lite, SIII Mini, Ace, Y, Beam, X and so on. It didn't work for Apple because of the premium prices. If it had provided cheaper Macs LCII or something else, it would surely worked.
 
I love it. With my vision going down a bit I would love such a phone. A much better feature for me than that thumb can reach all the screen non sense...

Why cant Apple think of those things... Seriously I getting close to get into the Apple haters clan if Apple dont lighten up.
 
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