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More Claims of 'Deep' Twitter Integration in iOS 5
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If Apple owned Twitter I would understand this move.
Even though I and a vast number of others don't use or care about it, at least if it belonged to Apple that would be understandable.
But for Apple to build this in at the system level, makes one believe there is much Apple is not sharing about this development.
I must say this was a true surprise move. No wonder Apple is hiring, they've got their fingers in everything.
Even though I and a vast number of others don't use or care about it, at least if it belonged to Apple that would be understandable.
But for Apple to build this in at the system level, makes one believe there is much Apple is not sharing about this development.
I must say this was a true surprise move. No wonder Apple is hiring, they've got their fingers in everything.
1) You mean, if I need to send an email that's more than 140 characters, that's archaic? I am WAY out the loop...
2) How massively condescending... I'm so glad you 'urbanites' can tell us plebs what's necessary and what's not.
I keep seeing the same uninformed responses coming up about how useless Twitter is. For those who experienced the recent storms in the South, Twitter and Facebook were essential to have to spread life saving information and coordinate recovery efforts, especially when power was out. To say Twitter is filled with nothing but poop comments clearly shows you haven't used Twitter to its potential (frankly I see more of the poop style comments in my Facebook feed).
Everything except Facebook's OpenGraph technology. That's where Microsoft, in the long run, has a huge advantage over Apple and even Google. OpenGraph will be the backbone of your Internet experience in the very near future (for many, it already is). When MS inked an exclusive deal with Facebook to integrate OpenGraph into Bing, few people in the tech community were lost as to the implications. Apple is doing this to play catch-up.
To many that sounds absurd. To those in the know, the Bing / OpenGraph deal changed everything.
In no way did I denigrate or imply any kind of urban superiority in my comment. Most Twitter users are in urban areas. That is absolute fact. The advanced features of Twitter are much more robust and useful in areas of high population density. Most mobile and social services are. That, too, is fact.
If you're insecure about not living in a city, that's your own issue. But I never implied any type of class stratification (hence the "to be fair" when acknowledging why some don't get the usefulness of Twitter).
You kind of seem a little touchy and angry. Maybe try to relax a bit.
(Sorry for the double post. Ironically MR's new code doesn't play nicely with the iPad.)
Fads have a timeframe...I never said it should last 6 weeks or 6 years.
I'm surprised the Twitter fad has lasted this long and as you read in my previous post, it will end soon. In fact, I would argue that people are already sick/bored/unimpressed with Twitter.
I keep seeing the same childish back-and-forth argument as to whether Twitter is great or rubbish, which is to completely miss the point...
Many of us don't care one way or the other, we just don't want it integrated into iOS anymore than any other 3rd party service, whether it offers one of the many variants of social networking currently available, on-demand porn or anything else we can opt-in with quite satisfactorily with an app. The fact that there's already a 'debate' as to whether Facebook or Twitter would be better, depending on what the user happens to prefer, further illustrates that none of these services have any business being a core iOS service.
Great Post!
For clarification, in my earlier post I said I didn't care about it, but wasn't fond of it being integrated at system level.
Also as a long time Apple user, knowing how Apple operates, I seriously doubt there will be a "toggle" so we can turn if off.
To those making generalized statements labeling those of us not embracing it "Haters" ... I NEVER said I hate Twitter!
Nor did I say I haven't tried it.
I am extremely open to any new technology / app / change / or other useful development.
That said only _I decide_ what I like and choose to use.
I don't and will not, have anything forced on me. I am not a fanboy or lemming here to buy into the hype, I'm here to enjoy the GOOD things that Apple does, and they do plenty.
I do "get it", in terms of why so many people like twitter & facebook, but for me there is not enough useful value to spend time on them.
WE DO... share a common situation. That is, there is never enough time in the day to do all we would like to do. Therefore I choose to do only what is of relevance to me. The problem as I see it, is it's really easy to waste time on Facebook and Twitter. Once again I'm not a Hater of Facebook either, however as a tech professional, engineer and scientist, I do know the security risks and I choose not to give up so much personal information.
If you take the time to read both the pros and cons about Facebook for example you will find that it's indeed far worse that Google, Apple, Microsoft, or any other company that collects data on you (read all companies).
Welcome to 2011 and the facts of online life.
Conversely, I DO SEE the benefits to the people that enjoy Facebook.
I Do Not Hate Anything or Anyone. There's too much fun to be had, to waste time hating.
Expressing ones opinion is what this forum is for, not making assumptions that you know what others likes and dislikes are, and labeling them at your every whim, or attacking them just because you're in disagreement or unhappy.
I think this forum is a great place with lots of good conversations, when the personal attacks are left out.
Cheers
i've seen more references to poop in this thread than in my Twitter or Facebook feeds.
Otoh...
MobileMe is pretty integrated in everything Apple makes, but I still don't miss not having an account. From a marketing perspective, that's a failure on Apple's part, but it shows that they won't shove a service down your throat if you don't want to use it, even if it's a major cash cow for them. There is less incentive for them to force us to use Twitter.
MobileMe is pretty integrated in everything Apple makes, but I still don't miss not having an account. From a marketing perspective, that's a failure on Apple's part, but it shows that they won't shove a service down your throat if you don't want to use it, even if it's a major cash cow for them. There is less incentive for them to force us to use Twitter.
it's amazing how some of you hate Twitter so much. I guess that shows the age diversity of this site as well as culture.
What are the demographics of social media users? Are they all young hipsters?
I am actually very interested in knowing. I fall into the category of seeing no point in Twitter and Facebook and am 40+. However, I've heard that a lot of users are elderly as well.
The only point I see in Twitter and FB is that everything you post and read is quickly monetized by someone. I'm not sure that I'm willing to part with all my personal data in exchange for free access to FB and the lack of any true privacy controls is scary.
80% of the US population live in urban areas...so what. Also, name three "advanced features" of twitter that are more useful to an urban population vs a rural population.
I guess its nice for those who use Twitter but I don't use Twitter nor do I plan on using it. Facebook is more than enough.
Has nothing to do with age. Some people just don't want everything public on the Internet. No Facebook or twitter for me. I'm ~34
Out of curiosity, what kind of job do you have? I'm not saying this to be mean or anything, but I think FB/Twitter are important tools to keep in touch and network, for people you might not otherwise talk to regularly or have their phone numbers handy.
For instance, when I shoot events, I find the athletes (if it's a game) or other people on Facebook and drop them a link to my website, say, "Hey, I took some great photos of you, here's the link" and i get a bunch of hits as a result since they tell their friends. That's much harder to do with emails or text messages. Sometimes email is more appropriate if the person is a professional and runs a business and their email is easily available on their website.
A few months ago a professional photographer I had met a couple of years ago hit me up on FB Chat and asked me for help. I found out the info she wanted and then said, "Hey, these are some of the books I made" and she was suddenly all interested in having me do more books. Again, something that came up as a result of FB/Twitter.
Not really features, but there are more people to connect with who live near you.
I think Twitter is s#$% personally. All spam