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Does T-Mobile have 3G available anywhere? Last I checked, the iPhone 3G, and 3GS were useless without 3G....:eek:

The EDGE network was all they had...

They have the best 3G net in their home market and beginning to roll out 4G now, but i guess that is not what you were asking, right? And of course they are the sole official supplier of any kind of iPhone there too. No clue about the net on the other side of the pond though.
 
You know what is funny? a lot of people tell me exactly the same thing when they talk about T-Mobile: By many considered the worst provider in europe so many people just buy a iPhone in one of the countries that offer unlocked iPhones and get Vodaphone.

I think the real problem is that nobody who offers the iPhone is really preprared for the increase in traffic so any major iPhone provider will suffer networks issues and it will be a game of catchup for all.

Look at the internet usage difference between iPhone and the rest, I doubt anyone could have predicted this / was prepared.

I have always wanted an iPhone but ATT is a terrible company.
 
Look at the internet usage difference between iPhone and the rest, I doubt anyone could have predicted this / was prepared.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Predicting load is a major carrier activity. AT&T has admitted that they used to have lousy tools for it, but claim to have improved.

Reportedly, iPhone owners use less data than other smartphone users. Perhaps partly because some apps were restricted to WiFi. Moreover, carriers like Verizon and Sprint supposedly have carried far more data than ATT for years, due to their having lots of business customers on laptops.

AT&T has said that the iPhone isn't the most important cause of their problems.

While most people would assume that most of the wireless data traffic growth on AT&T's network comes from the iPhone, AT&T's executives said that isn't the case. De la Vega said that quick-messaging devices are actually driving a significant portion of data usage on the network. - CNet

Just adding 850MHz to major cities also caused a huge problem for AT&T, as suddenly many more people could get a signal inside of buildings, and usage jumped for that reason.

In other words, just adding iPhone users should not, and apparently did not, cause most of the problems people see.

Although certainly the bugs in at least one iOS release (the WCDMA power issue) have caused real network problems. Ironic that it was Apple code, since Jobs originally claimed third party software was a bad idea since it could cause "the West coast network to go down".
 
I see, I guess the situation for ATT is different from the T-mobile one here in the Netherlands where the explosive internet use of the iPhone crippled the 3g network of T-mobile. They even offered a month three if you could prove dropped called because of this issue.

As for data use, I guess I assumed Steve's numbers, claiming 40% of (top of my head, can't remember the exact number) mobile internet was iPhone users. Off course this was not specified as 3g or Wifi.

Anyway, my iPhone worked fine in the US on T-mobile, so I'm too lazy to figure out what exactly is going on :)
 
AT&T will never buy T mobile
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il eat my hat if they do

I should think more likely would be a cross-operation arrangement for carrying each other's traffic on their networks. That way, T-Mobile could benefit from AT&T's LTE buildout, and AT&T could benefit from higher-speed networks where T-Mobile has them, as well as internationally. The companies remain distinct, but everyone makes out and the customer is happy. It's the telecom way.
 
If the iPhone ran AWS 3G, I'd flock to WIND MOBILE. They're offering $25 unlimited internet for students.
 
The real question

If I buy an unlocked iPhone 4 now, would it work on a 1700MHs network?

There is someone who had experience it?

Thanks
 
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