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More Details on Apple's Cloud-based Music Locker

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What is the difference between listening to streaming music (subsciption) and apple's cloud... They wont actually store all my songs wont they just let me stream the music I purchased from the server?
 
I'm sure this has been addressed but I'm tired/wiped to read the whole thread. What about the quality of the music? If one song is stored that all users stream from, is it lossless?

Someone mentioned only having 5 authorized systems for your media. I recall a few years back that Jobs, et al stated/supported burning your iTunes media to a CD-RW then re-importing it back into iTunes, stripping any copy protection. There were scripts that ran automatically, re-writing to the same disc until the selected songs were done.

Personally, I like my media on my system and iDevice(s). I don't need all of my music on my iPhone, and I have an iPod classic 60GB in my Infiniti with all my music connected via USB. I'm more interested in MobileMe revamping.
 
Satori said:
I really hope this happens but I have a feeling that it will be hobbled in some way. If it runs from an iTunes master copy of songs then it might preclude people uploading music that has been ripped from CDs or bought somewhere else (like Amazon).
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This. Or songs ripped from Youtube videos. Sorry Apple just lost my business IF it's going to be based on the iTunes-verified master copy.
 
LOL at some of the responses here. Something to think about:

  • The "Master Copy" service scenario will require Apple to be able to verify you own a track before giving you access to it, and the labels aren't going to let them use whether you have a song on your hard drive or not as criteria. And since Amazon's MP3s are plain mp3s without purchaser information in them, and CDs can be duplicated easily in bit-for-bit manner that only means one thing: For this scenario to work Apple would only be able to give you access to the song it has actual record of you purchasing (your iTMS songs in other words). So you can kiss the idea of streaming prolly 90% of your music goodbye.
  • The "storage space" service scenario, similar to Amazon's current service, would mean you have a set quota of disk space for your songs, you would also have to upload them all yourself. I don't know how much storage space you people are expecting Apple to give you for this new service, but I wouldn't hold your breath for more than 20 GB. It certainly wont be more than 64. So everyone here who's saying they will be able to carry more music than they can fit on their iPhones... no, you wont. Plus there's the licensing part, too. If Apple actually needs to get a license to allow this streaming, then streaming can only be done with songs they have a license agreement for. So no streaming any Indie or other obscure music. Apple will have to block it when they can't confirm it as a song they have covered by an agreement.
Earlier in this thread I saw some saying "can you not understand that some people listen to music when they're away from home!!!!?" ...Yeah, we can. People have been listening to music when they're away from home for a couple decades now, on their Sony Walkmen, Discmen, and Apple iPods. No Apple streaming service necessary. Someone else was like "This will be so useful because now I can stream the music on my Macbook using Wi-fi!" ...Yes, carrying that macbook and trying to find a wi-fi network is so much easier than just carrying a 4 oz iPod.

That's why this service is overall rather dumb. It's so niche it's not even that useful if used legally. It would only make sense in a situation where you have access to a computer yet cannot use you iPod. So either at work (not really, if your employer really lets you stream music over your computer's speakers on the job you can use a speaker dock from your iPod just as easily). Or at a friend's house when you don't have your iPod with you (once again, limited chances of this scenario). But what else will you do with it? Allow friends to connect and listen to your songs? Play them over speakers in a public place? Both of those would be a big no-no with the labels.
 
seems to me that lots of people complaining about the data on mobile phone issue are overlooking something. When network capacity allowed them to, networks gave unlimited data - then we all got data hungry, killing capacity and forcing limits. At some point soon (probably with 4G) the networks won't have a capacity issue with increased levels. They probably won't go back to true unlimited - they are businesses after all - but we could be looking at broadband rates similar to landline, maybe £15/month for 100GB or so. As and when that kicks in, having a media cloud will be a huge blessing. Until then, wifi users and home users will still benefit.

3G just doesn't have anywhere near the massive capacity 4G can be optimised to give.
 
richard.mac said:
streaming original masters of the song to prevent uploading is very smart, but will probably be only for iTunes purchased songs.
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I assume they could do that for all songs they have in the iTunes Store library independent if you purchased through iTunes or not. long as the file is in your iTunes library.

For a song that isn't in the iTunes Store library ( those without the covers) they probably haven't negotiated any rights.
 
rmhop81 said:
you're probably the guy that's mad that apple tv is not 1080p even though content isn't available. lol

have you used airplay? it works awesome.
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That the content isn't available is purely Apples fault and btw - as I would like to use the Apple TV mainly for slideshows - the content is available.

And yes, I want the Apple TV to support 1080p60. I have high hopes for the a5.
 
rmhop81 said:
why would you tether to ur phone if u have an iphone?
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I don't have an iPhone. I have an Android phone (out of necessity), and syncing is so f'd up that I never do it. So I use the Android phone for phone calls, tethering, and Internet away from Wifi, and my iPod Touch for everything else.

But I refuse to tether my iPod to my phone just so Apple can leave out the two 4GB chips and make the iPod even thinner.
 
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