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More Durable Touch ID Sensors for iPhone 6, iPad Air, and iPad Mini Coming From TSMC
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Samsung have one as well, though. According to one of my colleagues whose missus has an S5, it's apparently just as good -- if not better -- than Apple's. Apparently it's quicker and more reliable.
In saying that, he's an insatiable Android fanboy so I always take what he says with a heavy dose of sodium chloride. Are there any objective opinions from MR members about the S5 vs 5S fingerprint scanner quality?
I have a 5s and my friend has an S5. There hasn't been a time that my friend hasn't reswiped his finger to get it to recognize his fingerprint correctly while I just place my finger down on Touch ID without any problems so far.
A touch id sensor on the round part where you put batteries in the apple BT keyboard would be perfect...
Care to elaborate? What's wrong with sharing a device (e.g. within one's family), yet keeping personal data / profiles (e.g. bookmarks) separated? Apart from Apple preferring to sell more devices, of course... ;-)
I'm having an issue right now with mine where it seems like it's not house properly or something. It makes a clicking sound when I slightly press on it, it's kind of loose almost.
Care to explain?
User accounts would be perfect. One iPad for the living room. Both me and my Wife will be able to use it with our own accounts. Whats not to like about this?
Oh, and Android already does this for tablets...and it works great.
I'm guessing it's because peripherals are MUCH easier to steal than a whole computer. I'm guessing, like the iPhone, the secure enclave would be it's own little chip inside the machine.
Of course they would, the question is whether we will see it in the next release or will they continue making the same part for now. This gives more evidence that we will see the improved Touch ID sensors sooner rather than later, and potentially more durable as well.
Samsung have one as well, though. According to one of my colleagues whose missus has an S5, it's apparently just as good -- if not better -- than Apple's. Apparently it's quicker and more reliable.
In saying that, he's an insatiable Android fanboy so I always take what he says with a heavy dose of sodium chloride. Are there any objective opinions from MR members about the S5 vs 5S fingerprint scanner quality?
The iPhone 5S' sensor is indisputably better.
Samsung's is using outdated swipe tech, which is exactly what Apple did not want to use for usability reasons and why it bought Authentec for $356M. It would have been easy for Apple to implement that old and proven tech way before, back when the Moto Atrix had it. But they wanted to offer something better, unlike Samsung.
Now why are swipe sensors bad? First, well, they require a swipe motion, which is totally unpractical if you're holding your phone one-handed, and makes the process a little longer. Second, they require your finger to be at a specific angle to recognize it, unlike Touch ID which works at any angle.
That makes Touch ID way more convenient because you can unlock your phone single-handed much like you would if you had no fingerprint reader at all, and you don't have to worry about your thumb being perpendicular to the sensor on two axes. You just place your thumb and it works. Samsung's implementation is not bad per se, it would have been considered good if Touch ID didn't exist. But when you compare the two, it's obvious that one's tech belongs to another decade.
Apple lacks of creativity that they are showing off any sort of feature to stand out.
I mean, what ever improvement in any feature always goes under the table because is logical, but when you lack of actual innovation, you show off that sort of things.
That's weird, I never thought of tin as being "durable". Resistant to corrosion, maybe, but durable?
That's a really interesting read; I'm definitely on the camp of Apple (by default!) but it's nice to see why people justify one over the other. I've got a 5S myself and can't imagine how the fingerprint scanner could be easier. It's brilliant.
Just to be clear, it is actually stereo (in that there is a left and right channel) but I agree that it would be nice to have it on both sides of the device in landscape mode.
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Possibly more durable than aluminium, but I have no idea what they used before so I have no reference point. I'm not very savvy of metallurgy so take this post with a grain of salt.
User accounts would be perfect for my family as well. There's absolutely nothing to dislike about it. I think wizard may be thinking of that tired idea that Apple wants you to buy an iPad for each person. Who gives a crap what Apple wants?
doesn' control my wallet. I said in a previous post if Touch ID brought multi-user accounts I would update my iPad2 yesterday. Without multi-user, my iPad2 is more than serviceable and I see no compelling reason to upgrade.
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Maybe they should add a backup button and sensor. Lord knows there is enough space on that huge bezel for one.
Maybe they should add a backup button and sensor. Lord knows there is enough space on that huge bezel for one.
Possibly. The problem is any additional chip would be subject to hacking and possibly compromise the security they have established by integrating the Touch ID hardware on the SoC. it may take Intel awhile to adapt but even if they have to be draged into it kicking and screaming I believe that Intel will have no choice but to support custom hardware in the future. Like I've mentioned many times before silicon is the equivalent of the printed circuit board of the 80's. That is where innovation is taking place these days.
OK, but "of course they would what?" Just looking for clarification.
Certainly.
Hi Sparkey;
Good questions. I will try to give you some perspective base on where hardware is now.
From the practical standpoint:
From the philosophical standpoint:
The big problem with iPad in my experience though is that you would loose excessive amounts of space if you where to support multiple users. In the end I really don't see a way for Apple to do anything other than to support multiple storage locations (for multiple users) for things like iTunes, E-mail and the like. This would kill available storage.
Good questions. I will try to give you some perspective base on where hardware is now.
From the practical standpoint:
- Adding user accounts immediately means you have the need for a lot more secondary storage (by the way the iPads already need this extra storage). Apple could and should address the storage issues on these devices but even if they do it is stall a cramped platform to share storae space on.
- How will they go about handling app data/files storage? Right now the operating system has the apps storing data within their applicaiton subdirectory. Trying to split this p into seperate and secure directories for each users is a problem. Agian I'd be the first to admit that there are some problems with the way Apple currently does things but overall the system works really well to support a single user machine. Backups are done cleanly in a way that supports all apps. Much of what makes ipad a great single user machine would end up boriken with support for users.
From the philosophical standpoint:
- IPad and iPhone were never meant to be a multi user device. The way it works is built around the idea of a single users. Why give that up just because a few people want to cram a multiuser OS onto the platform. Before answering this, consider how much instantly ends up borken with multi user support.
- Would you normally lend somebody your phone to use without your oversight? This comes back to the personal aspect of an iPhone or iPad. Sharing may be a quality parents want to instill into their children but most parents understand that there are limits. iPad is simply a different device requiring a different set of rules for sharing.
- Why try to wedge concepts from the PC world into a device that is obviously not a PC. Lets face it you can buy a Mac Book Air for nearly the same price as a tricked out iPad and get a far better deal when it comes to supporting multiple users.
It would seem to me that they bought the wrong device then or did not buy enough of them.
I've been on record for some time as far as not liking the way iPad handles files. Admittedly the current system has its good points, but a hell of a lot would be simplified if there was support for global storage.
The big problem with iPad in my experience though is that you would loose excessive amounts of space if you where to support multiple users. In the end I really don't see a way for Apple to do anything other than to support multiple storage locations (for multiple users) for things like iTunes, E-mail and the like. This would kill available storage.
If the iPad "must" be shared then obviously the wrong device was purchased.