Apple is not "dropping support" by making SL Intel only. They are just not developing the newest OS for old hardware. On the release date of SL, your PPC Macs running Tiger and Leopard (and Panther if you still use it) will not spontaneously combust. Just as Apple still released security updates for Tiger now, they will continue to release updates for Leopard for probably two years after SL comes out so now it will be three years down the road before they "don't support PPC platforms"
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No they didn't. Windows 95 and Windows NT4 were far better than 3x. In fact I'd go as far to say that NT4 was probably the best version of Windows ever made. It was cross platform (ran on RISC), it had SMP, it had the best OpenGL support (last Windows OS where Microsoft used OpenGL as there main graphics API). It's still capable of computing on a modern level and even on an old Pentium 3 it will boot and run twice as fast as Vista or XP on a Core 2 Duo.
2000 was good for the most part. XP was 2000 with a piss poor GUI but still stable and reliable.
Yes OK, Vista did suck.
Whilst it is good they are doing this, that doesn't excuse the fact that someone who payed thousands for a Quad G5 as late as August 2006 cannot run the latest version of OS X.
well look at it like this:how many people are still running tiger? and another point if that all the imacs come already built with the hardware to support leopard.
for those who buy vista in the store, their computers probably came built witht he hardware to support xp. of course they are going to have to upgrade to run vista
o well, vista is going out, and in comes windows 7. as a beta tester, i find that it runs very well on one of my older towers, and only needs a minimum of 512 mb to be funtional. keep in mind that this is only a beta, but in my opinion and from the tests i have run, it is already much more stable than vista ever was
Apple is making the right decision with this.
Get rid of the old garbage code that less and less people need.
Get rid of the old garbage code that less and less people need.
Having been a Mac user who's survived the change from 680x0 processors to PPC, and the switch from System 6 through OS X.5, I fully realize that things cannot remain static. My G5 desktop has served me well for nearly 5 years and I fell I've fully gotten my money's worth out of it. By the end of the year I'll hopefully be able to upgrade to an Intel Mac, at which time my G5 will go to my parents. As long as the G5 is physically able to run, it will meet my parents needs.
No complaints from this PPC user; just acceptance that the Mac universe continues to move onward and upward.
No complaints from this PPC user; just acceptance that the Mac universe continues to move onward and upward.
Amazing how flippantly people say things like, "get rid of the old garbage code", "the PPC is old", etc.
I've got an iMac G5 and a MacBook Pro (Intel 2.4 ghz) and the G5 iMac is just as speedy as the MacBook, except when running apps designed to utilize the 2 cores.
Most of us like to keep our Macs for a while, we don't upgrade every year like some of the people here seem to do.
I've got an iMac G5 and a MacBook Pro (Intel 2.4 ghz) and the G5 iMac is just as speedy as the MacBook, except when running apps designed to utilize the 2 cores.
Most of us like to keep our Macs for a while, we don't upgrade every year like some of the people here seem to do.
The G5 at the office I work at runs like a champ, but its Leopard that is killing that computer, the mybook external FW800 drive we have no longer works because of a Leopard update.
We're better off sticking with something stable like Tiger or even Leopard when they finally iron out the bugs (god knows how long that'll take).
Still makes you chuckle that a Quad G5 will not be able to run anything beyond Leopard, that means only 10.4/10.5 are the OS's it could run, yet it smokes/runs just as fast as Apple's line of computers (excluding Mac Pro's). Keep in mind the Quad came out in late 2005, it's still a BEAST.
Nicely put. These folks have a machine less than 3-years old (bought for over $3k) which has now gone the way of the dinosaur which is sad given that they still have plenty of horsepower for most tasks.
You can look at it a couple ways. A pro that never updates his OS, and might stick with the same software until he is done with that machine. He'll have no complaints, since he didn't focus on Apple's software timeline and just worked with the software he started with.
Or, you can be angry, since Apple will no longer support/update your expensive investment.
I've got a Mac Pro, my sister's powerbook G4 chokes on Leopard, and the Dual 2.3 G5 at the office doesn't need the latest OS, it just needs to be stable (which is most peoples arguments in the first place).
I agree with this (to an extent), but you really don't have to sound like an a**. Seriously, what is your real problem?
w00master
My real problem... the constant and never ending chorus of people (not so much on this post, as I predicted, thankfully) who expect [insert any computer or CE maker here] to insure their old hardware always works with latest and greatest software, etc. I'd apologize for not sugar coating my earlier comment to better suit your sensibilities, but as the aphorism goes, a rose is still a rose by any other name. My being "nice" about it won't change the reality that the whiners exist. And really they are just comments from an anonymous poster. Don't get so up tight about it.
3 years is more than enough time.
There is absolutely no argument (that makes any sense) against dropping PPC.
Its old, its done, its unsupported. New machines are better and are already in 2nd and 3rd generations.
I love the angry PPC user who still thinks he's being screwed. LOL
He insists on using an ancient machine, but demands BRAND NEW software be available for him.
What a hilarious jacka$$ that guy is.
There is absolutely no argument (that makes any sense) against dropping PPC.
Its old, its done, its unsupported. New machines are better and are already in 2nd and 3rd generations.
I love the angry PPC user who still thinks he's being screwed. LOL
He insists on using an ancient machine, but demands BRAND NEW software be available for him.
What a hilarious jacka$$ that guy is.
The problem with this logic is that I always give "the whiners" the benefit of the doubt. Why? Because sooner or later (karma baby, karma), something Apple does (or whatever circumstance) will bite you in the a**. Then, YOU become "the whiner."
Some of these PowerPC machines are literally less than 3 years old. Even though I feel that they should eventually be on Intel, for many of those people it is a very large pill to swallow.
w00master
You're saying a 4 processor G5 is a dinosaur? Or even the 6 year old Dual 2 G5 that can play 1080p videos. Try doing that on a MacBook Air it'll pass out in 2 seconds.
And I find it SAD on the amount of arrogance on here. It's truly stunning. Seriously, get over yourself.
Someone who bought a Quad G5 in August 2006, that doesn't have an ongoing use for it regardless of new software, is just as much of a moron as someone who buys Mac Pro today.
You know better is on the way and you know how important that is to wait for new.
I don't think Apple should support PPC with the new Snow Leopard release but I also don't think a three-year old computer is all that old of technology to support. Think about it, most college students do not graduate college in 3 years. Are we going to start asking that they go computer shopping twice during their college career?
I think 5 years is a good number. JMO.
I think 5 years is a good number. JMO.
Way to spread the FUD... Earlier versions of Snow Leopard worked fine on a Core Duo Macbook.
I get a big laugh with guys that are always swapping computers every year or so. Gee, you'd think that no one could produce music or make artwork if their system isn't brand new. My God, how did the world ever cope beforehand!
HAHAHAHA....as long a you have a machine that works and it has software, it'll always still do what you were always doing with it.
HAHAHAHA....as long a you have a machine that works and it has software, it'll always still do what you were always doing with it.
I own a Mac Pro, I speak for the Quad G5 owners out there, or any Dual G5 owners out there. Those machines are still plenty fast.
I thought Apple would cut all G4 support and leave the G5's, but no, they are getting lazy and just want to cut them all out. Yes, I'm whining now after reading a post of somebody being able to open a garageband tutorial on their G5 but it was hiding somewhere in the system folders.
If they are going to cut PPC support as it's a 99% chance it wont make it to 10.6, at least fix Leopard.
Just like OSX is still basically System 7 and NuBus at its core.
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Different issue - the question is about supporting older software on older systems, not whether new software will run on older systems.
If you have an application/OS/system that's running fine (AKA "not broke"), can you continue to get security and bug fixes for a long time.
Microsoft - yes. Apple - not so much.