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I dont see apple going backward only forward,after all they now have only 1 current machine with the g3 so its just a matter of time. sticking with g4's consumer,970's to come in the pro. look 1 gig imac now, maybe 1.2 by christmas, maybe 1.3 or so next year so you could see the g4 in the imac for at least a couple more years easily! The powermac is a whole another story, it is screaming for a new chip and we still have not gotton an official response on how the g4 is clocking at 1.42. Motorola & Apple are not talking. can you say clocking the piss out of it! This is what i think and that all of this is to make due untill the new g5 or whatever they will call the 970. a new 970 and 9700 radeon will laugh at Doom3 and any other app you may throw at it.
 
My concern is that the G3 does not have a future. Apple's Keynote if I remember correctly requires a G4! Its only a matter of time before more programs go this way. My concern is that if I was to buy a G3 iBook now I would be completed stuck in the not so distant future. What do you think?
 
Keynote runs just fine on a G3. QuickTime movie playback is choppy, but I think I have heard G4 owners complain about that too.
 
Apple would not release an app that wont run on one of their best sellers. The G3 will have life for at least a couple of years. But more and more apps will use Altivec and make the G3 less desireable unless IBM adds this feature.
 
-----Apple would not release an app that wont run on one of their best sellers. The G3 will have life for at least a couple of years.

I agree. G3 is perfectly fine for non-professional applications, which iBook is supposed to be, a consumer laptop not professional laptop.

-----But more and more apps will use Altivec and make the G3 less desireable unless IBM adds this feature.

I wonder if general consumer apps will really need Altivec function? Maybe exception of iMovie and Quicktime? Should there be need for G3 with Altivec like feature, G4 will probably take its place in iBook.
 
Originally posted by macphoria

I wonder if general consumer apps will really need Altivec function? Maybe exception of iMovie and Quicktime? Should there be need for G3 with Altivec like feature, G4 will probably take its place in iBook.
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No, they probably won't need Altivec for iMonkey or whatever other iApp they do. But just for marketing they may make it so that G4 powered machines run it better and people are more likely to spend more.
And that's not an evil Apple thing, just a standard marketing ploy most manufacturers use.
 
Originally posted by Maxkraft
The g4 533 was slightly faster then the 7450 733 in a few test and that was 3 major revisions ago. The current g3 can only do 70% of the work a g4 can do per clock and with the 7457 now on the market the g4 has a 512k L2 and .13 processes. The g3 is pretty much obsolete.
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You are so funny.

We all know that both the G3 and the G4 are obsolete.

Why else does everyone want the 970?

The G3 vs G4 is much like a AMD vs Intel situation. AMD cost analysis beats the pants off of Intel, but the Intel is "faster" for some things.

For the G4 to be even close to comparable to the latest x86 hardware it takes skewed benchmarks (altivec optimized and dual proc aware photoshop) as well as 2 processors! Weak.
 
-----No, they probably won't need Altivec for iMonkey or whatever other iApp they do. But just for marketing they may make it so that G4 powered machines run it better and people are more likely to spend more.
And that's not an evil Apple thing, just a standard marketing ploy most manufacturers use.

This is true. That is how planned obsolescence works.
 
Originally posted by daveg5
if ibm can use altivec in the 970 then i see no reason why they cant use it on the many1-1.5GHZ g3 processors apple is supposedly sitting on maybe this is the new G3-i/2 or g4-1/2. anyway its agood sign as it forces moto to speed things up or be replaces by ibm on both high and low end. i prefer g4 but if a had a choice between a powerbook at 1GHZ g4 or one at 1.5 GHZ g3 for a ;ower price i would choose the g3 even without altivec for a portable that is less heat better battery faster at most non altivec things. this may end up in the new imac if and only if its has altivec and reduces apples component prices
peace out
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Apple owns the "Gx" name, and if they wanted to call G3 chips with Altivec compatible vector unit a "G4" or a "G4+", they could. This may be what Apple does when the IBM 970 chip comes to the powerbooks (which could be as soon as the 970 is mass produced as the heat disappation is lower than the G4 when running at 1.0-1.4ghz.)
 
Please!!!

Originally posted by Kid Red
I'm talking about the G3 family. It's been common knowledge the G3 was a better overall chip but didn't have Altivec or dual capability. However, "MojaveMP, which will start at 1.6 GHz, will be based on a 0.10-nanometer process and feature dynamic voltage and frequency scaling. As a result, this bantamweight will be able to run at its base speed at 1.2 V and eat up only a Callista Flockhart-size 10 W." I'm not sure, but the MP stands for Multi Processor? If so, then look out. It also runs cooler. It scaled faster then the G4 as well.

Just not sure how marketing handles a G3 as a replacement for the G4.
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MojaveMP is the evolution of a G3.....but please don't call it a G3 because it isn't . G3 is an Apple’s marketing department name. MojaveMP promises to be a great chip, and it would be great for customer level Macs. Power Macs will have the 970’s, which seem really impressive. As far as the current G3s goes, they are great chips but you can’t compare them to a G4. Altivec is not the only advantage of the current G4s. just check out the benchmarks.
 
Originally posted by drastik
I say bring it,

I can't decide between a 12 in powerbook or ibook, but I might go with the i bcause I won't do altivec intense tasks on an ultraportable.
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yea but the os is better suited for a g4...and
the graphics cards are nice. i only have 16mb
of vram. i would love more...oh well.

anyway. the newer ibooks are probably faster
than this old 667tibook. so either way you'll
be happy, hopefully.
 
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