More New 5K Monitors Announced!

[ZiBart]

Wrong, plenty of monitors have that feature and do not have fans, mine being one of them.

Although you are correct, and i will only get passive cooled monitors after a couple bad experiences with active ones, the ASD has a lot more heat generating components than your average monitor with power delivery. I cant think of any other monitor that has the same combination of an internal power supply, legitimate CPU and processing, webcam and good speakers which all combine to produce heat. That said, between the vapour chamber solution of the iPhone or external power supply of the iMac, im sure they could engineer something with graphite that eliminated the need for fans.

 

[Pezimak]

@Pezimak Haha. Yes.
I was replying in reference to an ASD.
Apple does as Apple does. These things are a trade-off...

"mine being one of them."
Quote review: "it has a bulky design with a large grille to allow up to 240W of heat to dissipate passively.
The design is thicker than some competing models, ...which helps manage heat without needing an active fan system."

In regards to Apple Studio Display yes but that is rather unique. Having said that, it will be interesting to see if new monitors like the newly announced LG ones use fans if have processors for the Ai stuff in them? But my MateView doesn’t have a fan and, touch wood, has lasted for a few years now.
I dislike the idea of fans in a monitor as they aren’t exactly designed to be take alarm for servicing. External power supplies are better too imo due to that also.

 

[jabbr]

I hope they go with an external power supply like the 24” iMac

Both for reliability and noise + heat
And hey that could also allow a thinner design

 

[tenthousandthings]

In regards to Apple Studio Display yes but that is rather unique. Having said that, it will be interesting to see if new monitors like the newly announced LG ones use fans as if have processors for the Ai stuff in them? But my MateView doesn’t have a fan and, touch wood, has lasted for a few years now.
I dislike the idea of fans in a monitor as they aren’t exactly designed to be take alarm for servicing. External power supplies are better too imo due to that also.

Is that the 28.2" MateView? -- if so, FYI, the Kuycon P20 has just launched, which is a retina-class 28.2" 3:2 panel (192 ppi)

 

[Pezimak]

Is that the 28.2" MateView? -- if so, FYI, the Kuycon P20 has just launched, which is a retina-class 28.2" 3:2 panel (192 ppi)

Yes I did see that but no, not enough of an upgrade for me. Interesting to see another manufacture make that ratio, apparently they are using the screens the Microsoft Studio used, but without the touch screen part.

I am considering my options, will wait to see what Apple launch, however I do like this 39" LG widescreen with the tandem WOLED panel. Just so long as it doesn't get burn in as I have static windows I switch between all day. I will wait for reviews. If I am honest when I did try a Mini LED screen, the BenQ inexpensive, it was a bit bright, possibly a tad too much for me. 32" 4K isn't enough of an upgrade I don't think for me, although I would still consider it, of course I could go 6K but I would never mange to read anything at that res lol! Not with my eyes.
Am thinking of the 27" options but that is going smaller then my current screen, an improvement in every way but think I need more screen real estate. I really don't need a pro monitor as I am no editor or colourist etc.

Will be a VERY interesting year for monitors anyway. I just hope my works laptop is supported, as LG's TB5 monitors do not sadly. Even though it has TB4 and can do alt mode DP and probably handle up to 6K or higher, do not care if to runs at 30FPS as it is for work. My Mac will be the main driver for the specs and to play the odd game and for that, the dual mode is perfect on these new screens.

 

[FatLouie]

In regards to Apple Studio Display yes but that is rather unique. Having said that, it will be interesting to see if new monitors like the newly announced LG ones use fans as if have processors for the Ai stuff in them? But my MateView doesn’t have a fan and, touch wood, has lasted for a few years now.
I dislike the idea of fans in a monitor as they aren’t exactly designed to be take alarm for servicing. External power supplies are better too imo due to that also.

I hope they go with an external power supply like the 24” iMac

Both for reliability and noise + heat
And hey that could also allow a thinner design

Same here concerning an external power supply. Buying a new external power supply is easier than replacing an internal power supply. Whether using an internal or external power supply, there is still a power cord from the monitor and going somewhere. I can hide that power brick more easily than I can replace an internal power supply.

Not having internal fan(s) is another bonus to an external power supply. However, I am also curious how LG and others will handle cooling these newer monitors with AI and more advanced hardware and software features.

 

[Pezimak]

Of course you're wrong, because I've been using 220 PPI monitors primarily with Windows since 2015. Working with these monitors is simply much more pleasant. Anyone who doesn't see the point in this will probably be happy with printed paper and 150 DPI. Yes, that was certainly the case in the past. But then the printing industry made the leap to 300 and 600 up to 1200 DPI for the mainstream, and I don't remember readers complaining, "Why such a high dot density? You just have to hold the printed page 30 cm further away so you can fool your eyes into thinking you're not holding poor print quality in your hands!"

Sorry, but if you don't appreciate better quality, you should stay out of these discussions. The future will clearly move towards 220 PPI or higher, and users who think this isn't necessary will simply die out!

Are you happy now? I have a Studio display, so the 'proper' PPI for high DPI displays..... Can't believe I've ended up with one either with the roundabout I've gone on lol...

 

[jakey rolling]

But then the printing industry made the leap to 300 and 600 up to 1200 DPI for the mainstream, and I don't remember readers complaining, "Why such a high dot density? You just have to hold the printed page 30 cm further away so you can fool your eyes into thinking you're not holding poor print quality in your hands!"

Readers weren't the ones having to pay thousands of dollars for that increase in DPI, so of course they wouldn't complain. (It's also a very funny example given that Epson was touting their 1440 dpi inkjet printers back in the 1990's. The bigger problem was that nobody could take advantage of those high DPIs.)

Those in the office and print industry absolutely did complain and many held on to their old 150 DPI iron for years (in some cases decades). Some high-end print houses absolutely saw the value in the higher DPI capabilities, sure, but the other 90% of the world shrugged. One of the first things I sold a lot of to print houses when the blue-and-white G3s came out was Farralon Ethernet-to-localtalk adapters so that they could continue to use their ancient laserjets.

Offices only moved into laser printing when the cost per page printed became economical enough to justify the move away from dot matrix. Most who moved to colour laser only did so when they could pay for the machines and supplies on a per-print basis.

 

[jakey rolling]

Same here concerning an external power supply. Buying a new external power supply is easier than replacing an internal power supply. Whether using an internal or external power supply, there is still a power cord from the monitor and going somewhere. I can hide that power brick more easily than I can replace an internal power supply.

How many times have you had to replace the internal power supply of a monitor? Because by my count I've seen it done exactly zero times in the past... (checks watch).. 35 years.. by either myself, any school I've ever gone to, or any client I've ever worked with.

 

[jabbr]

@jakey rolling yeah that's a fair assessment on reliability. An external PSU still would have been nice way to reduce electromagnetic interference issues.

At least with my original ASD, it needs to be drawing a certain amount of power before it stops causing an annoying buzz picked up by my single-coil guitar pickups. If I keep the display at 50%+ brightness or attach my phone to charge then it has enough of a load not to do that. The power supply is also notorious for buzzing itself as it's not well filtered and prone to noise from dimmer switches, etc. Not great engineering for the money.

 

[TSE]

Kuycon P27Z 27’’ 5K Gaming Monitor, UHD 180Hz/ FHD 2K 330Hz Dual Mode PC Monitor, IPS Panel, Built-in Speakers, 10-Bit Color, 99% sRGB, 98% DCI-P3, HDR, 1ms, 1500:1, 218PPI (Honeycomb - with Stand)

Kuycon P27Z 27’’ 5K Gaming Monitor, UHD 180Hz/ FHD 2K 330Hz Dual Mode PC Monitor, IPS Panel, Built-in Speakers, 10-Bit Color, 99% sRGB, 98% DCI-P3, HDR, 1ms, 1500:1, 218PPI (Honeycomb - with Stand)

www.amazon.com

Wow P27Z

5K 600 nitz 180hz ultimate monitor

Is this a reputable brand?

 

[MacGizmo]

Wow P27Z
5K 600 nitz 180hz ultimate monitor
Is this a reputable brand?

Kuycon has been around for a couple years now. Generally speaking, the reviews on their displays are all positive. The one thing that everyone worries about is the repairability/returns factor. Kuycon is indirectly run by the Chinese Government, and officially, they do repairs here in the US only when purchased through their own website (not ClickClack) - otherwise your repair takes the "slow boat to China" (pun intended). That being said, I believe ClickClack contracts with some repair company for their sales, so it may be a moot point.

 

[tenthousandthings]

Kuycon has been around for a couple years now. Generally speaking, the reviews on their displays are all positive. The one thing that everyone worries about is the repairability/returns factor. Kuycon is indirectly run by the Chinese Government, and officially, they do repairs here in the US only when purchased through their own website (not ClickClack) - otherwise your repair takes the "slow boat to China" (pun intended). That being said, I believe ClickClack contracts with some repair company for their sales, so it may be a moot point.

There is no need for this kind of idle speculation -- we know a lot about Kuycon at this point. @TSE -- if you are interested in Kuycon, ask in the G32P thread, where there are more than 1,500 comments and dozens of people with actual experience and knowledge:

Kuycon G32P - 31.5″ 6K (6144×3456) IPS Black Monitor

It looks like Kuycon, maker of many Apple look-alike displays, is at it again. I don't see it on their U.S. website yet but the retailer ClickClack.io has it listed for sale at $1,699. Stated specs: Kuycon G32P 31.5″ 6K (6144×3456) - 223 ppi 60Hz, native 10-bit, 500 cd/m², HDR10, 2000:1 99%...

forums.macrumors.com

The best source of reliable information (and links) about where to buy is in the 27" 5K and 32" 6K WikiPosts -- the US site @MacGizmo mentions is actually an independent vendor based in Dubai, UAE. The Amazon link you posted is from an official outlet with a direct business relationship with Kuycon: kuycon.group