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According to Apple's Panther preview web site, you can.
"If you have a preference for how youd like your signature to appear above or below quoted text Mail now can make it so."
http://www.apple.com/macosx/panther/mail.html
iBook G4 Prototype
Keep in mind, the PowerBook G4 12" was originally named the iBook G4. Marketing changed it. They felt it didn't fit the consumer market. At the last minute I might add.
With current dynamics, I don't think Apple would shoot themselves in the foot and move iBook to G4.
Get a better G3 chip, and eventually move to G5 after everything else, is my bet.
Jaedreth
Keep in mind, the PowerBook G4 12" was originally named the iBook G4. Marketing changed it. They felt it didn't fit the consumer market. At the last minute I might add.
With current dynamics, I don't think Apple would shoot themselves in the foot and move iBook to G4.
Get a better G3 chip, and eventually move to G5 after everything else, is my bet.
Jaedreth
Something that's on my mind
A friend and I both are wondering if the speed of pop-up menus from the dock have been addressed. One of the threads on AppleInsider commented that threading in the Finder is vastly improved and that the short pauses when opening folders with lots of items has been addressed. When you put your hard drive or home folder into the dock you can click and hold to get a pop-up menu of items. I used to do that with my applications folder, but got tired of the long wait for the Finder to build the menu. Anyone here with the developer release of Panther have a moment to see if the speed of dock pop-ups have been improved. Thanks.
A friend and I both are wondering if the speed of pop-up menus from the dock have been addressed. One of the threads on AppleInsider commented that threading in the Finder is vastly improved and that the short pauses when opening folders with lots of items has been addressed. When you put your hard drive or home folder into the dock you can click and hold to get a pop-up menu of items. I used to do that with my applications folder, but got tired of the long wait for the Finder to build the menu. Anyone here with the developer release of Panther have a moment to see if the speed of dock pop-ups have been improved. Thanks.
re: pop-up menus from the dock
All of the menus seems much faster and snappier. However, when clicking on the Applications folder from the dock, there wasn't any noticible difference in speed. Although the initial menu popped up quickly, there was an annoying delay for the Utilities subfolder to show its contents.
However, I must say that after I did it once, it was much faster the second time. But I would contribute that to cache/memory, instead of better programming.
All of the menus seems much faster and snappier. However, when clicking on the Applications folder from the dock, there wasn't any noticible difference in speed. Although the initial menu popped up quickly, there was an annoying delay for the Utilities subfolder to show its contents.
However, I must say that after I did it once, it was much faster the second time. But I would contribute that to cache/memory, instead of better programming.
I've got $129 burning a hole in my pocket. Panther is going to be a must have upgrade!
Not only is Apple so smart as to put in all these nifty features like exposé, but they made sure everybody would want to upgrade when they show how even a 500mhz imac would run almost 30% faster.
I'm glad they are also making it easier to use mail with Exchange eventhough you could download mail from Exchange now if you have outlook web access enabled in Exchange. Being able to hook up with corporate mail is probably one of the major hurdles to getting a foothold in the enterprise. Go Apple, Go!
Not only is Apple so smart as to put in all these nifty features like exposé, but they made sure everybody would want to upgrade when they show how even a 500mhz imac would run almost 30% faster.
I'm glad they are also making it easier to use mail with Exchange eventhough you could download mail from Exchange now if you have outlook web access enabled in Exchange. Being able to hook up with corporate mail is probably one of the major hurdles to getting a foothold in the enterprise. Go Apple, Go!
Panther Problems
Hello!!
Panther 7b21, well it's better in a lot of ways then the first version of Panther. But I have issue with it, with my system.
Adobe Indesign Crashes at startup, can use toast to burn CD's...It has some dock/ minimized window problems. ...Safari 1.1 still has cache problems...
BUT!!
Mail is improved BIG time!! You can add a exchange account. The UI is pretty....A lot of things are faster.
Finder pref. have change to tabs now....instead of one page of stuff to do....
I haven't played with it to much on my test machine....Overall Panther seems to be heading the right direction!!! I can't wait the that f***ing G5 and Panther!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll send PIC later....
CS OUT.............
Hello!!
Panther 7b21, well it's better in a lot of ways then the first version of Panther. But I have issue with it, with my system.
Adobe Indesign Crashes at startup, can use toast to burn CD's...It has some dock/ minimized window problems. ...Safari 1.1 still has cache problems...
BUT!!
Mail is improved BIG time!! You can add a exchange account. The UI is pretty....A lot of things are faster.
Finder pref. have change to tabs now....instead of one page of stuff to do....
I haven't played with it to much on my test machine....Overall Panther seems to be heading the right direction!!! I can't wait the that f***ing G5 and Panther!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll send PIC later....
CS OUT.............
Exchange support
It's good news to see almost a plethora of vendors tackling Mac-based corporate network integration with Windows services. (Apple, Microsoft, Snerdware).
I've always felt that one of the major hurdles to justifying Mac unit purchases in a corporate environment has been Windows integration. It's even better that Apple has taken on this responsibility, meaning that the ability to use a Mac in a Windows world is tied to the fortunes of Apple.
This takes one more anti-Mac argument out of the equation and allows purchasing decisions to be made on the merits of architecture, design, value and user experience.
Now... if only Quicktime can export a Windows Media Player compatible file with worthwhile compression.
It's good news to see almost a plethora of vendors tackling Mac-based corporate network integration with Windows services. (Apple, Microsoft, Snerdware).
I've always felt that one of the major hurdles to justifying Mac unit purchases in a corporate environment has been Windows integration. It's even better that Apple has taken on this responsibility, meaning that the ability to use a Mac in a Windows world is tied to the fortunes of Apple.
This takes one more anti-Mac argument out of the equation and allows purchasing decisions to be made on the merits of architecture, design, value and user experience.
Now... if only Quicktime can export a Windows Media Player compatible file with worthwhile compression.
i disagree, sorta
i have to say the above poster is right overall but i have a problem with mac osx as it stands right now in the windows integration front. Due to the fact that most broadband cable isp's give you seperate subnets for each ip given in your household, it makes tcp/ip file sharing near impossible without a router.
I use a hub in my configuration to get each computer its own real ip, unlike the fake ones routers give out to share one ip. So without ipx support (the only prot. that works in this situation) i can't get my mac to see my pc's, though they see each other fine, with ipx turned on. I have been told that ipx will not be supported ever at least from apple's stand point, and i think that blows. samba is nice but doesn't work in this configuration due to the lack of ipx, and i think anyone that goes through comcast and doesn't like fake ip's from there router will have the same opinion as me on this one.
So yes i like the way things are headed but untill Apple see's that things aren't perfect yet it will make boasting about my mac hard in this household.
i have to say the above poster is right overall but i have a problem with mac osx as it stands right now in the windows integration front. Due to the fact that most broadband cable isp's give you seperate subnets for each ip given in your household, it makes tcp/ip file sharing near impossible without a router.
I use a hub in my configuration to get each computer its own real ip, unlike the fake ones routers give out to share one ip. So without ipx support (the only prot. that works in this situation) i can't get my mac to see my pc's, though they see each other fine, with ipx turned on. I have been told that ipx will not be supported ever at least from apple's stand point, and i think that blows. samba is nice but doesn't work in this configuration due to the lack of ipx, and i think anyone that goes through comcast and doesn't like fake ip's from there router will have the same opinion as me on this one.
So yes i like the way things are headed but untill Apple see's that things aren't perfect yet it will make boasting about my mac hard in this household.
Re: i disagree, sorta
Well, this is a very strange setup you have for a personal household. Honestly, i've only heard that peaople go extactly the opposite direction, not wanting actual IP adresses of the internet anywherein the house.
a) extra ip's cost extra
b) public connection without router is far easier to attack
c) ip's tend to change all the time
d) private networks allow much better resource sharing (as you know)
e) routing over the ISP doesn't make any sense in a private network, it just slows things considerably.
f) ipx is really old news...
Well, this is a very strange setup you have for a personal household. Honestly, i've only heard that peaople go extactly the opposite direction, not wanting actual IP adresses of the internet anywherein the house.
a) extra ip's cost extra
b) public connection without router is far easier to attack
c) ip's tend to change all the time
d) private networks allow much better resource sharing (as you know)
e) routing over the ISP doesn't make any sense in a private network, it just slows things considerably.
f) ipx is really old news...
Mail Questions
I am interested in the changes coming to Mail in Panther. Does Panther Mail have a "send all" function? I participate in a lot of mailing lists, and sometimes I am offline with my iBook, or my email server has an occasional short term glitch, and being able to send 3 or 4 emails at one time would be handy instead of sending them one at a time.
One thing I liked about Outlook Express in MacOS 9 is being able to navigate to next message/previous message using a 2 pane setup, with up and down arrows embedded into the message toolbar. I realize this can be done with the keyboard in a 3 pane setup with the preview, but I prefer the added space afforded by a 2 pane layout.
I am interested in the changes coming to Mail in Panther. Does Panther Mail have a "send all" function? I participate in a lot of mailing lists, and sometimes I am offline with my iBook, or my email server has an occasional short term glitch, and being able to send 3 or 4 emails at one time would be handy instead of sending them one at a time.
One thing I liked about Outlook Express in MacOS 9 is being able to navigate to next message/previous message using a 2 pane setup, with up and down arrows embedded into the message toolbar. I realize this can be done with the keyboard in a 3 pane setup with the preview, but I prefer the added space afforded by a 2 pane layout.
Re: Re: i disagree, sorta
I agree with everything but this. IPX old news? Sure
But the protocol is perfect for small networks that don't want to dink with setting up a DHCP server or manually code the IP addresses in their systems. Macs are suppost to be simple
I agree with everything but this. IPX old news? Sure
But the protocol is perfect for small networks that don't want to dink with setting up a DHCP server or manually code the IP addresses in their systems. Macs are suppost to be simple
Where did you get this information?
You are incorrect. The images are one the "paid" portion of the ADC download site and have been for a week. If you are a paying ADC memeber, you can download them. I expect the CDs will also be in the ADC mailing that went out on the 28th.
I believe the CDs have a more updated version of the OS than the download (could be wrong though), and they also have the signature above the quote feature that you couldn't find in Mail. I know this, b/c I installed off of the CDs, and I DID see the sig option in Mail.
Hmmm ... 7B21 CDs haven't arrived here, yet, so I can't check mail sigs. I have the downloaded images from the ADC site. I tried the mail sigs on those images when I saw the original post, and it always showed up at the bottom. Maybe I missing something. What's the build number (vXXX) on the mail app from the CDs?
Re: Some bugs...
I don't have a USB Bluetooth module, I've got the one built into my 17" powerbook.
Any ideas on how to tweak stuff so I can get it to work? Or am I gonna have to wait for Apple to retest software update?
I don't have a USB Bluetooth module, I've got the one built into my 17" powerbook.
Any ideas on how to tweak stuff so I can get it to work? Or am I gonna have to wait for Apple to retest software update?
yes yes and yes
This update will rock. One more reason to buy a brand new G5, and get the latest OS along with it!
This update will rock. One more reason to buy a brand new G5, and get the latest OS along with it!
Re: Some bugs...
Um, you can already do that by turning on the screensaver and then putting it to sleep. I did that for months.
There's a feature that's been in Mac OS X forever that pretty much makes up for that. It's called "cut and paste".
Use LaunchBar (www.obdev.at) for your application launching needs. It's much better, trust me.
Ever since I've used Mac OS X Mail, whenever I tell a message to send, if I'm offline, it just sits in the outbox. Next time I'm connected and I check my mail, it automatically sends everything in the outbox. Also if I try to send another message while I'm connected, it'll try and send everything it the outbox then.
Um, you can already do that by turning on the screensaver and then putting it to sleep. I did that for months.
There's a feature that's been in Mac OS X forever that pretty much makes up for that. It's called "cut and paste".
Use LaunchBar (www.obdev.at) for your application launching needs. It's much better, trust me.
Ever since I've used Mac OS X Mail, whenever I tell a message to send, if I'm offline, it just sits in the outbox. Next time I'm connected and I check my mail, it automatically sends everything in the outbox. Also if I try to send another message while I'm connected, it'll try and send everything it the outbox then.