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More pocket dials in 3 days than I've had in 5 years
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it would really help if people actually read through the thread--even just the last few replies--before posting something that not only has been brought up a few times but also shown not to be a solution of any sort (if not something that could even be worse at times).
Never had any pocket dials with iOS7, but it's indeed much more possible to activate quick reply or call reminder by mistake.
Hey, wouldn't it be great if proximity sensor was used in lock screen?
If the phone finds itself in a pocket, then no touches will be registered, this would eliminate pocket dials right? Possibly more battery drain?
Hey, wouldn't it be great if proximity sensor was used in lock screen?
If the phone finds itself in a pocket, then no touches will be registered, this would eliminate pocket dials right? Possibly more battery drain?
Ow, you don't have the problem, guess this thread can be closed then huh?
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And on topic, as stated, I also use a passlock now that activates after a while. It's a workaround, not a sollution. We can only hope future beta's will solve it...
i did read and i'm aware of the pocket dial that he's talking about. it does not happen when the screen is locked with a password. the screen wakes up when you get a text/notification hence the reason for having a password to stop an accidental dial/redial
Not everything in life happens to everyone, yet that doesn't mean anything as far as it happening for someone else and perhaps being an issue for them.
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If you read the thread you would have seen that those who have a password and experience this issue end up getting locked out of their phones because instead of unlocking and randomly pressing things and dialing phone numbers, for example, the phone gets random things entered on the password screen which are counted as incorrect attempts that can often lead to the phone being disabled for a period of time.
So is that better somehow than random dialing? Still and issue clearly. This was just covered a few posts ago again (in addition to being covered earlier in the thread).
Now that music controls are always present on the lock screen I'm having the issue of volume being changed randomly, as well as skipping songs etc. This should be addressed as well, I think music controls shouldn't be there by default.
Double clicking the home button is a pita but single clicking to show them should be OK (basically the opposite behavior it has now).
As for the pocket dials and any other sort of problem related to this, I think they should also limit the range of the screen you can use to unlock it.
Also, why is the screen being turned on when the volume is changed through the volume buttons? That doesn't make any sense and it increases the risk of having these issues.
Double clicking the home button is a pita but single clicking to show them should be OK (basically the opposite behavior it has now).
As for the pocket dials and any other sort of problem related to this, I think they should also limit the range of the screen you can use to unlock it.
Also, why is the screen being turned on when the volume is changed through the volume buttons? That doesn't make any sense and it increases the risk of having these issues.
This thread is an amazing demonstration of how little people pay attention. It's the electronic equivalent of overhearing a snippet of conversation, approaching that group, spitting out something that doesn't make sense in the context of the actual conversation, then walking away again (likely feeling smug about "educating" the dummies).
I'm also impressed that some people can calmly explain the same thing over and over and over. Bravo for keeping the thread on topic.
I'm also impressed that some people can calmly explain the same thing over and over and over. Bravo for keeping the thread on topic.
Call me crazy, but wasn't that the default behavior in iOS 6 as well?
Not seeing this behavior myself. Just tried it and couldn't replicate.
Couldn't agree more!!
Wouldn't you have to press home or sleep for that to be possible?!
Been using ios7 since B1 and this has never happened to me...
With iOS 6 and before, when playing music/audio with the phone locked, you had to double tap the home button to get the music controls to appear on the locked screen, while with iOS 7 they are there right away without even a single tap of the home button.
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Stranger things in the real world happen all the time, so something like this is certainly far far from impossible, especially now that unlocking the screen seems to be much easier and is in fact a proven issue for at least some people.
One thing I always try to remember before I make a post like this, and it's that my anecdotal experiences don't necessarily translate to everyone else and so it's really not that great a contribution to the conversation. I've never experienced this issue either and my phone is in my pocket a lot, essentially naked, with lots of notifications coming in. However, clearly it *is* happening to enough other people that it makes sense for them to discuss it.
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Fair; I guess I just got used to performing a "double click" and didn't think too much about it. Since I haven't had the pocket unlocking issues I like having the music controls "right there", but I can see how it might be an annoyance to some.
Well, that's not quite the case since, for example, you can easily use the phone through a shirt for example (basically at least a somewhat thin layer of fabric).
Fair enough, I see your point. Didn't even occur to me that with notifications coming in the screen does become "active" even if locked, therefore vulnerable to an accidental swipe... I stand corrected!
Yeah. Well whatever, but I just don't think people pay attention very well.
In all seriousness, I agree completely. I have never personally experienced this issue, but I know that my experiences are just that- MINE. Other people have different usage scenarios, and it is very plausible that the new slide-to-unlock functionality is a little oversensitive. So rather than insinuate that all of you deviants are touching yourselves inappropriately (as has been done already in this thread- seriously?), I'll express my sympathy for you all, and I hope Apple takes a look at this between now and the fall.
Really? The screen always turned on and became active even in previous iOS versions. It's just that in iOS 7 there are more controls available on the screen now and more of it responds to touches (accidental or not).Fair enough, I see your point. Didn't even occur to me that with notifications coming in the screen does become "active" even if locked, therefore vulnerable to an accidental swipe... I stand corrected!
Yeah I agree, I think the most prominent problems being easily unlocked in your pocket and music controls being changed accidentally. Before iOS 7, the unlock area was confined to one small area and needed movement in that precise area before the screen would unlock. Now, it's basically a free for all, any swipe from anywhere on the screen would potentially trigger something - unlock, notification center, or control center (and yes I know you can disable 2 of those).
As for music controls being the default on the lock screen, just seems very unpolished to me. Before the music controls would always revert back to clock after you're done with it and your screen darkens. But now, even if you revert it back to the clock, it doesn't stay that way when you wake the phone up again. It's very annoying to me because I feel like it's way too accessible. On iOS 6, the lock screen feels very finished and feels like an actual lock screen, because it was simple, it was a gate between you and the phone. But on iOS 7, I feel like the gate is becoming rusty and too easily opened.
I've been following this thread for a while as I've had the same issue with pocket dialling.
It's not much of a solution, but as suggested above I did enable the passcode lock (and not a trivial 0000 or 1111 code) on a short automatic lock timing. This has certainly reduced the issue (despite my feelings about having the lock in the first place) - but nevertheless, I've still had the odd pocket dial and of course the more than occasional incorrect passcode entry (though thankfully no lockouts - yet). I have nothing else in that pocket, though I can't deny that it does get moved around a lot.
I agree with the assessment above that this is happening largely because of the fact that the target area for "Slide to Unlock" has increased immensely, and the sensitivity of the slide is far greater than it used to be. I put it at about 50 per cent, whereas previously the slider needed to go across almost the whole way in the defined target area before unlocking.
I'm willing to accept that as a developer and beta tester, this is the sort of thing you have to put up with. However, if this isn't ironed out before the final release of iOS 7, this is ripe to become yet another one of those issues that the public at large will complain endlessly about, and with pretty good reason. Pocket dialling is annoying as it is, but unintentionally dialling people who you seldom contact, people with international numbers, work contacts etc is going to be a big deal that people are not going to like.
I'm hoping that before the release the target area is limited to the space immediately surrounding the "Slide to Unlock" text and the slider requires a swipe of at least 75 per cent of the screen area before unlocking. I'd much rather be annoyed at completing a full swipe every time you need to unlock the phone than the endless unfortunate possibilities associated with potential unintentional pocket dialling.
It's not much of a solution, but as suggested above I did enable the passcode lock (and not a trivial 0000 or 1111 code) on a short automatic lock timing. This has certainly reduced the issue (despite my feelings about having the lock in the first place) - but nevertheless, I've still had the odd pocket dial and of course the more than occasional incorrect passcode entry (though thankfully no lockouts - yet). I have nothing else in that pocket, though I can't deny that it does get moved around a lot.
I agree with the assessment above that this is happening largely because of the fact that the target area for "Slide to Unlock" has increased immensely, and the sensitivity of the slide is far greater than it used to be. I put it at about 50 per cent, whereas previously the slider needed to go across almost the whole way in the defined target area before unlocking.
I'm willing to accept that as a developer and beta tester, this is the sort of thing you have to put up with. However, if this isn't ironed out before the final release of iOS 7, this is ripe to become yet another one of those issues that the public at large will complain endlessly about, and with pretty good reason. Pocket dialling is annoying as it is, but unintentionally dialling people who you seldom contact, people with international numbers, work contacts etc is going to be a big deal that people are not going to like.
I'm hoping that before the release the target area is limited to the space immediately surrounding the "Slide to Unlock" text and the slider requires a swipe of at least 75 per cent of the screen area before unlocking. I'd much rather be annoyed at completing a full swipe every time you need to unlock the phone than the endless unfortunate possibilities associated with potential unintentional pocket dialling.
I loved playing with fire as a kid, why change now?
I had to carry a Note for a while. One reason I hated it? It pocket dialed 911 more than once on me. And now my iPhone is doing this??!? I really hope Apple realizes how much of a mistake they've made and correct this before the GM.
The other issue I have is that when notifications come through, all of a sudden the music controls are active and my music will begin to pause, skip forward or back, it's really annoying. Of course this was always an issue with Siri even in iOS 6. Try using Siri via headphones w/ a mic while your iPhone is in your pocket. Suddenly Siri cuts you off before you can even speak.
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