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[aswitcher]

yea thats what im hoping for, or maybe a price drop on the imacs

Well in Aus any upgrade should bring price drops unless the US increases - which I think unlikely.

BT 2.0 all round perhaps

 

[blitzkrieg79]

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Well one more thing i would like to comment on is since Apple released a lot of new/updated audio/video production software at NAB (software that is rather powerful and definately not for average home user) I am hoping that they will also increase the speed of Powermacs at the same pace they increased the speed/functionality of their newly announced programs, otherwise it doesnt make sense, Apple releases superior software to run on an inferior hardware? sounds strange... and also, i am STILL wondering about the appearance of the president of Sony in January and a timely release of Tiger in corelance with release of the CELL technology, I dont think those were coincidents and all that core audio/video offloading the main processor seems as if Apple is getting ready to either tack on a specialized coprocessor or I am missing something

 

[LGRW3919]

Well one more thing i would like to comment on is since Apple released a lot of new/updated audio/video production software at NAB (software that is rather powerful and definately not for average home user) I am hoping that they will also increase the speed of Powermacs at the same pace they increased the speed/functionality of their newly announced programs, otherwise it doesnt make sense, Apple releases superior software to run on an inferior hardware? sounds strange... and also, i am STILL wondering about the appearance of the president of Sony in January and a timely release of Tiger in corelance with release of the CELL technology, I dont think those were coincidents and all that core audio/video offloading the main processor seems as if Apple is getting ready to either tack on a specialized coprocessor or I am missing something

that's a good connection, but the issue is not quite black and white.

 

[Music_Producer]

I have been an avid macintosh fan since the last 5 years and still am, but I am absolutely put off with the state of their pro hardware computers like the desktop G5. All I keep hearing about is a new ipod..ipod photo..ipod shuffle, etc.

Sure, this is great for the majority of consumers and its an excellent way of introducing the Apple brand to windows users, and tempt them to 'switch'. However, the majority of Apple users have been pro audio and video studios and individuals and Apple is slacking, pretty bad.

I bought an AMD 64 notebook 2 months ago, installed ProTools on it and it blew my Dual 2ghz G5 away. This notebook has 256 mb ram, while my dual 2ghz g5 has 1.5 gig. I was able to get more tracks recorded and many more plug-ins than on the dual 2ghz G5.

Yes, my apple software is optimized..and I kept thinking "Wow, i thought this pc laptop wouldnt be able to handle 5 tracks even, but it let me record 32 tracks with 5 plugins on each..with a pint sized 256 mb of ram! It didnt even stop once unlike the dual G5 which always has to show some kind of error"

Still surprised, i kept trying to find some fault with this PC laptop..but I couldnt. As soon as I installed kazaa and downloaded something, BAM! The computer started slowing down and I was infested with viruses and spyware.

So I formatted the drive and reinstalled windows xp and pro tools..I don't use kazaa or any file sharing application. Here is what I have learnt:

As long as you don't download files (because they are infested with spyware and other trojans 99% of the time) the pc works great. I wonder how this laptop will perform when i stuff it with 2gb of ram.

So, an amd 64 laptop with 256 mb of ram totally killed the Dual 2ghz G5 with 1.5gb of ram. Its a 15" laptop, with a dvd burner and all the other goodies..picked it up for $1100.

Yes, I still love apple and my dual g5 and my powerbook..but apple should REALLY do something..either the pricing changes or the hardware does. I shouldn't be paying $2000+ for a 15" powerbook g4 that performs like a snail compared to a pc laptop.

I think the best collaboration would be between Apple and AMD. AMD seems to be the power manufacturer out there..imagine a dual core amd 64 opteron running mac os x!!

 

[cosmoed]

What is the shipping usually for powermacs, imacs etc.?

Same Business Day or Nextday?

 

[Rocket Rion]

What is the shipping usually for powermacs, imacs etc.?

Same Business Day or Nextday?

Last week it said same business day. Definitely something is happening this week. It will be minor, sorry to say, because this is a quiet release.

 

[Rootman]

What is the shipping usually for powermacs, imacs etc.?

Same Business Day or Nextday?

iMacs were same day until Saturday night. So were iBooks, eMacs, Minis, and Powerbooks (except 17-inch). The dual Power Macs were not same day, but their number of ship days was increased on Friday. Singles PMs are always same day. Everything except eMacs and single PMs have been boosted into Tuesday territory very recently, in other words (except iMacs are into post-Tiger time).

 

[uncle]

UK Apple Store: "Ready to ship: 5 days"........ signifying?????

Probable update: Current line will ship with Tiger pre-installed.

If we're real lucky the G5 Towers will get a minor speed bump to 2.7 at the top end. (fantasy land: the duals become single chip dual core machines and run slightly cooler hence the speed bump)

At WWDC we may or may not get the dual cores. (fantasy land: low end macs single chip dual 1.8 2.0 2.2. High end dual duals 2.0 2.3 2.7

 

[crpchristian]

UK Apple Store: "Ready to ship: 5 days"........ signifying?????

Probable update: Current line will ship with Tiger pre-installed.

If we're real lucky the G5 Towers will get a minor speed bump to 2.7 at the top end. (fantasy land: the duals become single chip dual core machines and run slightly cooler hence the speed bump)

At WWDC we may or may not get the dual cores. (fantasy land: low end macs single chip dual 1.8 2.0 2.2. High end dual duals 2.0 2.3 2.7

Okay...does it really make sense for apple to spend money to develop and produce updates that will be around for only a few weeks before a whole new technology replaces it. If speed bumps happen tuesday, i sersiouly dobut wwdc will have something to replace them.

I also dont see a 200mhz being lucky, dual cores are announced from other chip developers so i don't think IBM/apple having them is such a far fetched idea. Personally i hope the next revision is something a bit more special than speed bumps..other wise i'll be torn with buying or waiting but with the recent product cycles it'd be hard to wait when i need a new one.

Its gotta be wwdc or sooner thogh....its gotta be darnit

 

[uncle]

Okay...does it really make sense for apple to spend money to develop and produce updates that will be around for only a few weeks before a whole new technology replaces it. If speed bumps happen tuesday, i sersiouly dobut wwdc will have something to replace them.

If they announce the current line but with single chip dual cores running tiger and benching well that might go down 'ok', ie apple is up with the others offerings and taking it's own offering to market in a timely fashion.

It would also allow apple to have a chance to field test the dual cores for a short period before they launch the new high end machines at wwdc. Dual duals with, maybe, a new case design?

Like I said fantasy land



If you push back the single chip dual to wwdc and the high end to france expo then may be.

This means if we get anything on tuesday it will be macs shipping with Tiger pre-installed. If apple pushes the boat out we'll get a 200mhz bump to the single core duals maybe without the liquid cooling

Of course I'd quite like to eat my words but there you go. I live in hope of sitting down to that perticular meal!!!

 

[Evangelion]

But what happened when they came up with the Pentium-M? Those marketing guys must have been on a lunch-break or something with those clock speeds sub 2Ghz.

After they saw what a disaster P4 was (yes, it is a disaster), they started to correct their ways. Pentium-M is an indication of that.

 

[840quadra]

Yes, my apple software is optimized..and I kept thinking "Wow, i thought this pc laptop wouldnt be able to handle 5 tracks even, but it let me record 32 tracks with 5 plugins on each..with a pint sized 256 mb of ram! It didnt even stop once unlike the dual G5 which always has to show some kind of error"

My friend does his own music recordings for his band, and some friends of his. He knows someone that works on the Pro tools project, and said something about them starting to look more into the Windows XP versions of the software and supported hardware.

From what I gather they are spending more time and money working on those versions. He was asking because he was going to buy my Digital Audio Macintosh for use as a Pro tools computer at home. From what I understood him say, Pro tools really doesn’t use Both CPU's efficiently on a G5, and will actually work better on an older G4 Dualie.

Granted this is all hearsay so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[SweetFeet]

Like it or not, I think the update that's coming (hopefully tomorrow) will probably me a minor one. With the increasing shipping time estimates, I think an update is coming in the next couple days, for immediate availability. I can't imagine that this would be a major update, or Apple would have announced it a while ago, for availability weeks or months later.

 

[xli_ne]

Like it or not, I think the update that's coming (hopefully tomorrow) will probably me a minor one. With the increasing shipping time estimates, I think an update is coming in the next couple days, for immediate availability. I can't imagine that this would be a major update, or Apple would have announced it a while ago, for availability weeks or months later.

I agree. From what I heard at work, I would bet that updates will happen tomorrow at the emac, imac, and powermac line. I would be guessing like everyone else what those updates are, but they will be out tomorrow.


Hopefully

 

[Platform]

Like it or not, I think the update that's coming (hopefully tomorrow) will probably me a minor one. With the increasing shipping time estimates, I think an update is coming in the next couple days, for immediate availability. I can't imagine that this would be a major update, or Apple would have announced it a while ago, for availability weeks or months later.

Well anything.......speed bumb, more RAM and a better GPU it all is better than nothing......also price drop

 

[ts1973]

In Belgium shipping times are like this :
- ibooks : within 24h, BTO : 3 days
- powerbooks : within 24h (BTO : 3 days), except 17" : standard 7-10 days (!)
- MacMini : within 24h, BTO : 7 days (!)
- iMac : within 24h, except BTO : 1-2 weeks (!)
- eMac : within 24h, except BTO : 2-3 weeks (!)
- PowerMac : 5 days, BTO : 1-2 weeks

So, in my logic this means updates to Powerbook 17" and PowerMacs are imminent, and possibly some (minor ? Ram ?) changes in iMacs and eMacs.

 

[SweetFeet]

Well anything.......speed bumb, more RAM and a better GPU it all is better than nothing......also price drop

Whatever they come out with, I need one, and I've got the money for one, and I'll like it.

Thank you sir, may I have another.

 

[Piarco]

Over here in Blighty, all eMacs and iMacs are still same day shipping. All the PM's are 5 days, apart from the basic 1.8 which is same day.

I can't seem to read anything into this trend! Some countries its 7 days for the iMacs, and in some it hasn't changed.... no consistancy at all. I'm beginning to think its gonna be a v. minor iMac update if at all... say more memory and obviously Tiger preinstalled.

I'm hoping for a 2ghz 160GB HDD 512MB ATi 9600 BT 2.0 +EDR "better" iMac model... not asking for much, honest!!!!

 

[timmyb]

In Belgium shipping times are like this :
- ibooks : within 24h, BTO : 3 days
- powerbooks : within 24h (BTO : 3 days), except 17" : standard 7-10 days (!)
- MacMini : within 24h, BTO : 7 days (!)
- iMac : within 24h, except BTO : 1-2 weeks (!)
- eMac : within 24h, except BTO : 2-3 weeks (!)
- PowerMac : 5 days, BTO : 1-2 weeks

So, in my logic this means updates to Powerbook 17" and PowerMacs are imminent, and possibly some (minor ? Ram ?) changes in iMacs and eMacs.

A minor RAM change wouldn't put shipping times back 2 weeks. I think that all ranges will get 512 standard but iMacs and eMacs will see bigger updates. Even the 3 days for iBooks is significant as it is normally 24 hours even when BTO.

 

[wdlove]

It all stands to reason that we will se an update of some kind tomorrow. Tuesday has normally been the day that Apple makes announcements. Whatever they do it will make tomorrow doubly special. Would be nice to have new items ready for the Tiger release.

Still think that with the Power Mac if its significant Steve will want to announce.

There could even be a whole new line announced at WWDC, like a Pro Mac.

 

[ksz]

I think if there are hardware upgrades tomorrow, they will be relatively minor -- the usual speedbump variety -- because I think the "Tiger Unleashed" countdown is going to stay on center stage at apple.com. A dual-core G5 would certainly deserve center stage, but the stage ain't free...

 

[crpchristian]

WWDC is only about 40 days away, which makes is seem a bit odd to realease brand new technology between now and then (I think tiger's realease had more to do with NAB and the fact we all knew what was in it and that it was coming soon anyways, so WWCD wouldn't have been much of an 'unveiling'). I'm getting the top (probably) PM that will be released, so i'm hoping for WWDC actually. As for imacs and the others, updating them tomorrow would be nice since they are more likely to be updates rather than complete overhauls which the powermacs seem to have more potential undergoing in the near future.

 

[Roz]

- powerbooks : within 24h (BTO : 3 days), except 17" : standard 7-10 days (!)

So, in my logic this means updates to Powerbook 17" and PowerMacs are imminent....

I know there was talk of a 17" HD powerbook with hi res screen, altough I don't forsee that happening until WWDC at the earliest. Shipping times are 1-3 days across the board for all powerbooks in the U.S. so I don't think the 7-10 day wait in your country signifies anything really. The most we will see is a minor increase in RAM for the release of Tiger. But I'm even highly skeptical about that.

 

[JasonGough]

I'm thinking of buying a dual 2gig G5 soon for working with audio & pro tools, and i was wondering what the updates that are coming along tommorow are? Are these hardware or software updates? I know Tiger is coming out on Friday, so what possible updates are there tommorow?

Also, is WWDC the place where apple anounce new & updated computers? I've read about peoples anger that it looks doubtful to see dual core G5s coming out then which is a shame. Is it likely tho that there will be new models of G5 released in June?

Would it therefore be a good idea to sit tight and not buy anything until after WWDC, or will the prices become even higher when the new lines are brought out?

Hope you can help me out here!

Thanx alot!

 

[admanimal]

OK...some new shipping times for everyone to speculate about...

ALL PowerMacs, including the Single 1.8, are now at 1-3 days. eMacs are 5-7 days now. Everything else has stayed the same.

Personally I think here is a monkey at Apple that is allowed to adjust the shipping times at its whim.