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Cut working (Command X) for both images and text

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Snow Leopard Safari 4.0 Loading Bar

Cut (Cmd-X) has always worked in browsers and certain apps. It isn't a new feature. Does Cut works system-wide like in Finder for finders, files and so on?

I'll wait another 12 months if it means the release will be rock-solid. I think this is a great opportunity for Apple to be patient and to try their best to really perfect things before release.

That is precisely why Apple is holding off the new features for SL. They are working on making SL the most stable OS ever, so that they have a strong foundation for the next several OS releases. Knowing Apple's history in that area, it would probably still take 3-5 minor updates to do that. The question is will SL be leaner, thinner and faster as well as being stable? Remember all of the changes we're looking at in those screenshots are minor revisions. They should be more optimized and cleaner, except for the GC/OpenCL, text substitutions and QTX.

err... hmm. could've sworn I've seen this days ago on AppleInsider...
MacRumors is catching up on the AI's news. This was reported a few days ago.
Very much agreed - especially if more time allows for the implementation of Resolution Independence, a Quicksilver-like Spotlight, a tabbed Cocoa Finder with column view in CoverFlow, and full read/write ZFS.
Full read/write support for ZFS will be in SL Server, probably not for the client except maybe an external package that people can download like they do with the beta version of ZFS support in Leopard. It is possible they can release it as part of an update as soon as they verify that it is stable enough to be used for production.

The main question is, when or will Apple adopt ZFS as the default file system in the near future?

Quicksilver-like Spotlight? Are you talking about the interactivity part where you can use plugins to do stuff? Because Spotlight already replaced Quicksilver for me, I use it mainly to launch apps. The commands and plugins are cool but it should be in an application not built into the system. I rather have a lean, thin, fast, optimized OS that'll work even faster for any apps, rather than the OS replacing the Apps and become bloated. Not everybody wants to use QS. That's the whole point of QS, its there if you need it. I don't see why it has to be built in. It works fast for when I did use it on Tiger.

I don't see RI being usable for next 5 years. I believe it is because all the Apps have to be "Cocoaized" the OpenCL stablized and so on before Apple can feel safe to turn it on. It is extremely complicated than most people realize. We can't assume that every applications follows the guidelines, hell not even Apple follow their GUI guidelines most of the time.

I think Apple is using Safari 4 as an experiment to see how tabs would work in Finder. If it is well perceived, they might implement it in Finder if it is not, they have to find a way to make tabs work pretty well in Finder.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Isn't Win 7 supposed to launch for retail consumers roughly in October too?

:apple:

And the question remains for Apple is, how will they handle the W7 launch? Will they plan to release SL afterward or before if SL is ready before the W7 launch.
 
Quicksilver-like Spotlight? Are you talking about the interactivity part where you can use plugins to do stuff? Because Spotlight already replaced Quicksilver for me, I use it mainly to launch apsp. The commands and plugins are cool but it should be in an application not built into the system. I rather have a lean, thin, fast, optimized OS that'll work even faster for any apps, rather than the OS replacing the Apps and become bloated. Not everybody wants to use QS. That's the whole point of QS, its there if you need it. I don't see why it has to be built in. It works fast for when I did use it on Tiger.

Launchbar takes up about 5mb of RAM and won't bloat any apps. Apps like iTunes are already bloated w/o Launchbar or QS's help. I'd rather have it built in just because it would be native.

Not everybody may want to use those two app, but it can also be said of apps like Automator.
 
There is no QuickTime preference pane, and no preferences within the application itself. I theorize that Apple is going to do away with QuickTime Pro entirely.

That's an odd assertion. I just assumed that Quicktime Pro was not ready yet. The new Quicktime Player still seems to have a only small subset of the features formerly reserved for Pro.
 
Not thirsty anymore

Seriously are we ever going to retire the Aqua theme? I know it sounds trite but they keep semi-updating the GUI so that 30% look like iTunes and the rest is a collection of Aqua / 3rd party oddness (Looking at you CS4). Can't they just kill the old sliders and buttons?:confused::confused:
 
What it showed in the video was the user wrote a couple of words in simplified Chinese, and the OS automatically provided the traditional Chinese writing as a choice. I don't think it's that hard to do the translation on the fly on Apple's part, but it's thoughtful that users can write words in simplified Chinese and the OS converts them to traditional Chinese.

The input interface looks very similar to what the iPhone / iPod Touch handwriting interface.

Actually the video showed simplified characters being both inputted and outputted. There were no traditional characters.

The ability to input simplified characters and have the system output traditional characters for you to choose perhaps is possible, however, this is not what is shown in the video.
 
The new Screen Recording feature looks fantastic. It's now built right into QuickTime.

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Actually the video showed simplified characters being both inputted and outputted. There were no traditional characters.

The ability to input simplified characters and have the system output traditional characters for you to choose perhaps is possible, however, this is not what is shown in the video.

no you're wrong, simplified is inputted and traditional outputted, like the other comment said. "个" was written, but "個" was displayed; the two characters are the simplified and traditional versions of the same word, respectively.
Such use of simplified input, even if the user may require traditional output, is quite common with handwritten input system. Beautiful as traditional font is, it simply has too many strokes for quick input. In countries where traditional font is used, i.e. taiwan, most people know a substantial number of simplified characters for day to day use.
However, I don't think Apple pioneered this simplified to traditional conversion. It has been available for quite some time on the PenPower writing input system (only available on windows)
 
Launchbar takes up about 5mb of RAM and won't bloat any apps. Apps like iTunes are already bloated w/o Launchbar or QS's help. I'd rather have it built in just because it would be native.

Not everybody may want to use those two app, but it can also be said of apps like Automator.

How would building it in make it any native? Of course it won't bloat any app, it is a standalone app. QS and Launchbar are native applications, they are not some strange cross platform app that won't work on OS X. The fact that launchbar only takes 5mb proves my point that there is no reason to have it built in. If people want it, they can download it and use it.

Automator isn't built in, it's an application that Apple bundled with OS X just like iChat or like your example, iTunes. They aren't built in like the way Spotlight is. Spotlight is just a frontend to the indexer that always run in the background with metadata and so on which needs all the speed it can get and that requires building it in. Time machine is another example of a front end to something that's built-in that's always running.
 
Quick Look Open and Save

The feature of having Quick look in the open and save dialog box would have been useful just today for me as I was looking at two different versions of a very similar paper and so I instinctively hit the space bar and nothing happened. Also getting rid of QuickTime Pro would be a good step. Apple also add mpeg 2 for free to QuickTime. I need you to Add the side by side view like Win 7 has and make the same leap in speed that Win 7 did from Vista and I will be happy with Snow Leopard. Also make safari default to open links in new tabs not windows.
 
This sounds great. The Mockup with the Black Dock and Menu Bar looks amazing (hope they do this).

The only minor feature I still am waiting for is "Print Selection." Not expecting it though.

I agree with one of the other posters that iTunes needs a real revamp. The progress bar section at the top looks like it's from the 90's.
 
How would building it in make it any native? Of course it won't bloat any app, it is a standalone app. QS and Launchbar are native applications, they are not some strange cross platform app that won't work on OS X. The fact that launchbar only takes 5mb proves my point that there is no reason to have it built in. If people want it, they can download it and use it.

Automator isn't built in, it's an application that Apple bundled with OS X just like iChat or like your example, iTunes. They aren't built in like the way Spotlight is. Spotlight is just a frontend to the indexer that always run in the background with metadata and so on which needs all the speed it can get and that requires building it in. Time machine is another example of a front end to something that's built-in that's always running.

You said that it would bloat the OS and not apps. My mistake. Either way you were wrong. Spotlight is slower and takes up more memory than either Quicksilver or Launchbar. Why does memory usage make your point?

A first party app has every kind of advantage over a third party app. Theoretically you would not even need to open an app to continue an action. Quicksilver is lagging in development and Launchbar costs 30-40 dollars. The funny thing is that QS is open source so Apple would not have to purchase it.

You said that these apps do not need to be in there, you can always download it. That is why I brought up Automator. It's a powerful app that almost no one uses and is not fundamental to your usage but makes everything easier, just like QS/Launchbar. iTunes and iChat are not the same thing. Both have very specific purposes that are fundamental to the OS.
 
i think they might use the black menu like said before , an that the window bar will be like the iphone safari blue-gray
 
You said that it would bloat the OS and not apps. My mistake. Either way you were wrong. Spotlight is slower and takes up more memory than either Quicksilver or Launchbar. Why does memory usage make your point?

A first party app has every kind of advantage over a third party app. Theoretically you would not even need to open an app to continue an action. Quicksilver is lagging in development and Launchbar costs 30-40 dollars. The funny thing is that QS is open source so Apple would not have to purchase it.

You said that these apps do not need to be in there, you can always download it. That is why I brought up Automator. It's a powerful app that almost no one uses and is not fundamental to your usage but makes everything easier, just like QS/Launchbar. iTunes and iChat are not the same thing. Both have very specific purposes that are fundamental to the OS.

First party application development may have several advantages over a third party application but only if the company behind it is serious about it.

I don't think we're on the same page. Spotlight is a bit slower and takes up more memory than QS/Launchbar right? So why would a person want Spotlight to become more like QS if QS is already as fast as it is right now? Adding more features and more stuff to Spotlight only makes it take up more memory and even slower if Apple does not optimize it at all. Considering the bloated apps like the iTunes and how slow it has been lately as well as getting bloated (8.1 actually for the first time made iTunes a bit faster), I don't think Apple is taking optimization and "lightness" seriously. Especially the iPhone OS 2.0 development. I loved the 1.0 version, they were so fast, it is not even funny how slow 2.0 is. Apple may change my mind by doing the SL development but how far are they taking "optimization", we won't know til the final release.

Now I might change my mind if Apple just take QS and just bundle it in with OS X. In that case, it would make more sense than to building Spotlight to be more advanced with all kinds of features. But they might just remove all the support for plugins and restrict the amount of interactivity that QS is known for. Apple is not known for the ability to customize their OS, especially their applications' ability to extend. Look at Safari, they keep removing the Input Menu managers and nothing to replace it with.

Automator is powerful yes, but like you say, nobody uses it. Why not?

How are iTunes and iChat or their "specific purposes" fundamental to the OS? That makes no sense, they are not fundamental at all to the OS. You can totally remove both applications or "purposes" and the OS will continue to work just fine. They are just applications that Apple bundled with the OS for the purpose of smooth integration, that's all.
 
This is not true. You're linking to an article about browser font rendering. Ever noticed how books usually come black on white?


The screen is like staring at a light bulb with text imprinted on it. White text on a black background is WAY easier on the eye.
 
Ever noticed how books usually come black on white?
Books aren't emissive displays, and neither are e-ink readers. For pigment-based media, getting sufficient contrast means text fields of dark ink on light paper. However, bright white paper is generally inadvisable because of the excessive reflection in bright light or sunlight. What works for books doesn't work very well for televisions and computers, though.

There's a reason film credits, Front Row, TV guide software, and the like all use light colors on dark backgrounds, and it's not just because it "looks cool". It's also why infomercials and car commercials are the ones that tend to use the jarring white backgrounds--to grab your attention in order to sell you something.
The screen is like staring at a light bulb with text imprinted on it. White text on a black background is WAY easier on the eye.
Most optometrists do, in fact, recommend work environments with light text and medium- to dark backgrounds on monitors for people who complain of eye strain, and this is one of the main reasons that screen inverters are used for those with visual impairment.

However, some users accustomed to bright backgrounds will experience discomfort when visiting sites that use a dark background with light text, and will complain of "eye strain" using such sites. It's not actually eye strain; it's because of the shock of switching back and forth between the two opposite schemes. If those users switched primarily to a light-on-dark scheme and allowed time to adjust, they would not make claims of "readability issues" with light-on-dark content.

So some people don't like light-on-dark, but the issue is the contrast differential, not a fundamental problem with the scheme. In fact, the only reason that dark-on-light is the dominant scheme is to emulate print media, a decision made at a time long before people spent 8+ hours a day staring into a light source.
 
Generally, light text on a dark background is easier to read than the other way around.

Example

I'd like to remind you that we're all different, and many people have real physical issues. I've got weird hearing problems where human speech is concerned. And black (or dark) backgrounds with light text induce searing pain (and I'm not kidding - it's REAL, actual PAIN, like someone stabbing me in the eyes PAIN) in my eyes. So maybe to you that page you linked is comfortable. To me it's a blinding mass of pain. I only looked at that page for about fifteen seconds, but I had flashing lines burned into my eyes for several minutes afterward, and they still ache.

Put simply, if Apple makes the GUI light text on a dark background without the option to have things the way they've always been, I won't be buying 10.6 and I'll have to consider my options when it comes time to replace my MacBook. I'd rather stick with Apple, but since I spend 8+ hours a day in front of the computer I need a UI that's easy to look at. For me that's dark text on a light background.

But all this talk of a dark UI is just that - talk. So far there is zero reason to think that Apple is going to make any huge changes in the UI. All we've seen so far are some admittedly neat mockups.
 
no you're wrong, simplified is inputted and traditional outputted, like the other comment said. "个" was written, but "個" was displayed; the two characters are the simplified and traditional versions of the same word, respectively.
Such use of simplified input, even if the user may require traditional output, is quite common with handwritten input system. Beautiful as traditional font is, it simply has too many strokes for quick input. In countries where traditional font is used, i.e. taiwan, most people know a substantial number of simplified characters for day to day use.
However, I don't think Apple pioneered this simplified to traditional conversion. It has been available for quite some time on the PenPower writing input system (only available on windows)

Thanks for the correction 草泥馬 :) I did not expand the video large enough to pay close enough attention. Pretty cool new feature!
 
Put simply, if Apple makes the GUI light text on a dark background without the option to have things the way they've always been, I won't be buying 10.6 and I'll have to consider my options when it comes time to replace my MacBook. I'd rather stick with Apple, but since I spend 8+ hours a day in front of the computer I need a UI that's easy to look at. For me that's dark text on a light background.
Command+Option+Control+8 will invert the monitor colors to produce light on dark or dark on light, at will. You can toggle between the two via Universal Access in the System Preferences, or via the code mentioned previously, and adjust the color contrast, to your liking, as well.

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