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Re: Re: Re: Re: Price...

Originally posted by iShater
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-943519.html

I don't like the way they use "Smarter", smarter to make the choice to use Mac, not smarter because of any other factors (income, education, etc.)
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Smarter may be correct. Mac's cost more than PCs in general. (facts is facts). If you take PC users with machines that cost $1500+ you'll probably find the same level of education and affluency if you compare to Mac users who have systems costing $1500+.

Just a guess.
 
yea, on the price of the ipod...i dont think i'd buy one. i love apple but an mp3 player isnt that important to me. definetly not important enough to spend three hundred bucks on one. i'd rather buy a cheaper one that will last say three years. i wonder how much something like that would cost. hmmm, thats what i need :D a cheapo mp3 player, actually, you know what, i dont need an mp3 player at all .
 
Originally posted by MorganX
Get better than what? It's acceptable now isn't it?
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i believe the context in which he was talking would be "get better" as in the technology becomes less expensive and pricess drop. and for the "acceptable" part (he's replying to someone that said not everyone makes 80k) would mean to those in a lower income bracket, say 30k. its all there when you dont try to distort or ignore the context....:D but i do it all the time myself :)
 
Originally posted by yzedf
In China, Google has been banned. Completely blocked off for most.
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Google is not banned in China, but it shouldn't matter to the Mac market share, 'cuz I believe Apple shows a non-exsistant % in China, and it would/does bring more Windows users to the fold.

Originally posted by Kid Red
Also keep in mind that market share figures includes EVERY type of computer running a form of windows. So all those thousands of computer/registers in restaurants, cash registers in Wal-Mart and various other stores, etc are factored into that figure. So it's a tad disproportionate.
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As I said before the Google Zeitgeist, does not factor that in. So ask your self: How many cash registers and print servers surf the web? Should be none.
How many personal computers used as personal computers do? Nearly all.

The Zeitgeist shows actual personal uses of computing, that nearly every one who has a computer does; Search through Google (BTW I just saw a story on TechTV that Google.com has became more well known as a brand than even Apple or Coke!)

However the double edge sword for using the Zeitgeist instead of the usual sales figures that analyst use, is that while Google is at an excellent position to show real operating system marketshare that sales could not, but it also shows the amount of pirated systems are out there, most notably SE Asia which we should all know runs on mostly pirated versions of Windows (no doubt one of the most contributing factors to why Win '98 holds such a commanding lead in OSes on the Zeitgeist), and I would imagine that the amount of pirated systems vs. none fully utilized systems are nearly congruent.
So while using sales figures to base market share is flawed, using the Zeitgeist doesn't help that much either but at least it helps on pissing off the random desktop Linux zealot saying that they are going to take over the number two slot in operating systems.:D
 
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
What part of Airports? Operations? Airline use?
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Operations. There was, at one point, air traffic control. Not sure about that anymore. If you get a chance to look at the background of some operations terminals at an Airport, you'll see OS/2 running in the background.
 
Originally posted by beatle888
yea, on the price of the ipod...i dont think i'd buy one. i love apple but an mp3 player isnt that important to me. definetly not important enough to spend three hundred bucks on one. i'd rather buy a cheaper one that will last say three years. i wonder how much something like that would cost. hmmm, thats what i need :D a cheapo mp3 player, actually, you know what, i dont need an mp3 player at all .
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Or just invest $50 or $60 into a Discman. When I got my first portable CD player, I played that poor thing to death. Took me several years to finally buy another one, but I'm glad I did. I'd love to have an iPod, but the problem with it being that to put new songs on it, I'd have to spend tons of hard drive space on my computer, then import those songs onto the iPod. It would be great for long flights and having half of my music collection with me, but for just casual travel and walking around, it's nice to just select any CD at random, pop it into my CD player, and away I go.
 
Applesoft

Just in general comments, I'm glad to see Apple get more into the software side of things. Look at Microsoft, they made their riches from selling software...they certainly aren't raking in the money from the XBox! So, if Apple can get more into the software game, especially software which will make them money, then perhaps they will be even better off.

So far it seems like they've been doing some great work on products to make the Mac an attractive choice: iTunes, iMovie, iDVD...certainly Apple has gone after their digital hub strategy and done quite well. If I was in hell and had to use a PC, I don't even know where I would start with some software to make movies or convert MP3's to AIFF format to create my own CD's, or what type of CD burning software I should use. What about making a home movie? Ummm....I think Windows XP might have some crappy attempt of movie software...maybe, or maybe I'm just making stuff up now.
 
Originally posted by edenwaith
It would be great for long flights and having half of my music collection with me, but for just casual travel and walking around, it's nice to just select any CD at random, pop it into my CD player, and away I go.
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and its Damn freaking nice not to have to juggle those Jewel Cases, carrying 80 CDs worth, 3 days non-stop of musical choices, in something the size of a pack of cards, with the smallest of iPods.
 
5% is a great short term goal. Think of this, how many long time Mac users out there have converted someone? It's like cancer but good. That should be my signature... well anyway. I converted one person, then his sister got a Mac and he converted 2 people, etc etc. I think the problem is that a lot of the old macs which we toute and being such a great lasting value actually screw over apple. I'm sure we all know someone who owned a PowerPC then went to a P3/P4 recenetly. It's completely backwards! OSX is better than anything Apple ever had, but are more people switching?

Consider this, so many more people have computers now than before. I won't say Apple dropped the ball during the market's exploding to every corner of the world, since at the time the cheapest mac was around $1299 for a G3. Apple lacks aggressive advertising. The war isn't over. TONS of people have these new $899 PCs they can't use for crap and are stuck to Yahoo mail and IE6. 100 files on your WinXP desktop and a little thing which pops up every hour to try to erase your files. :-D

My theory was always if every Mac user now converts a FULL TEN PEOPLE things will be great. I think I got 10. It's a hard fight, but demos help. I got one person with a 10 minute demo of iPhoto. Plugged in their Canon PowerShot and iPhoto opened. Somethign which seems silly like not having to click the iPhoto icon in the dock is a huge selling point for people who seem to refuse to remember anything about hwo to use their computer ;-D. MacRumors.com needs a whole thing on converting people. MacAddict did one of those before, that should be a monthly feature!

So go out there and convert people! Remember the eMac with SuperDrive. People love DVDs.
 
Originally posted by Wry Cooter
and its Damn freaking nice not to have to juggle those Jewel Cases, carrying 80 CDs worth, 3 days non-stop of musical choices, in something the size of a pack of cards, with the smallest of iPods.
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While im in the mood, iPods kick butt. My friend has one, I found the sound quality quite excellent, but I heard that Creative is still a but ahead. Apple would do well to incorporate a Harman/Kardon digital amp into the 2nd generation Super-ipod (we all know it's comming sooner or later)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Price...

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
The question is whether a glorified Walkman should be $250+... I guess someone has to be an industry leader, but these things we'll have reached an appropriate price point when they fall below $100...

Show you a better one for what price? Are any other players out there nearly as expensive?

I'm guessing that Apple can retain their marketshare if they keep targeting the people that are born every minute...
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Wow, have you eve seen some of the high end MP3 palyers out there? Apple wouldn't be selling these left and right at Dell, Target adn Best Buy if they were bad values. And people are born every minute and every person is who apple is targeting, not sure your point there...
 
What if. . . . .

What if Apple would give .mac users coupons or on-line credits for sending computer buying customers "switchers" to apple stores or the on-line store.
Switchers could just give the .mac user name who referred them.
. mac user would then get a 99 dollar coupon or credit.
switch 1 pc user and .mac is paid for a year
big mouth .mac users who switch 10 pc users
could get free iBook, or really big mouths Powerbooks. . . . Sign me up .mac !!!!!!
Free salesforce for Apple, win
Reward the loyal base, win
more .mac members, win
WIN WIN WIN
Why Not????????

Go Apple
 
New software is always great!
Just... Will there be new Hardware
to make the soft run smoothly?

Seems to be the major problem for Apple.
 
thank you, insidedanshead ... right on the head

Originally posted by insidedanshead
There's only that many more PCs out there because big corporations buy lightweight super cheap PCs to act as typewriters on steroids
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Give the man a ribbon! Apple is not nearly on the fringes of relevancy as many people infer from the company's "market share" numbers.

Well done, insidedanshead
 
new software leading to MacOSX version of PocketPC??

All the apps Apple is coming out with must be paving the way for a MacOSX version of PocketPC. Take an iPod, add a color screen, 40GB HD, mini versions of Appleworks, Addressbook, iCal, iPhoto, iTunes, Mail, and maybe the Word-killer supposedly in the works, along with an Inkwell interface. Since they're fazing out the line (?), they could hijack the name: iMac. I need one!

Can't wait till its announced at MWSF if we're lucky or MWNY if we're extremely lucky? Am I dreaming here? Seems like all the pieces are falling together. How far off must such a thing be?

This has probably all been dicussed many times before, but it just struck me like a G4 desktop or a ton a bricks, whichever weighs more.
 
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