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So what would a 10" touch screen cost to produce? $50? Fine. Sell it for $150. A 10" tablet can still cost in the $600 - $800 range.

It CAN, but you have to factor in the internal function, development costs, distributors, lawyers, guy that serves coffee costs, etc etc etc. The price will be dependent on the internal function too.

Who offers a 10" multi-touch screen at this time, though? I wouldn't expect it to be something inexpensive to make or make function at this time. Maybe in 3 years it will be cheaper.

Apple--never expect low prices, never.

Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so low you felt you were robbing them blind.
Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so fair you felt gratified by good deal.
Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so unexpectedly high but you HAD to buy the device because it was time saving, innovative, shiny, lovely, and sexy.
 
Well, I suppose the demo could involve showing a 'netbook' format... 10" clamshell, with keyboard, very 'air-ish'.
And one more thing.... popping the screen off to show a stand-alone tablet.

Suppose it could happen.
 
ok let me take another stub at it, the mac go -as in ...on the go...:eek:-.....the macnetbook hahahah, the larger ipod touch, the ipod touch-er, the go mac, will it be a mac something or an isomething? I give up for now...:eek:
 
Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so fair you felt gratified by good deal.

whitebook circa the past three years, very fair deal, even right now if you take into account os x tool.

mac mini too, first and second intel iteration. for that size and power super fair deal, I remeber wanting to be build an ultramobile pc with parts like mini itx board, small case etc and it came at bout almost double the money for the mini, well not double but close.
 
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It's got it's own Apple Processor that they have been working on for over a year now.
Small 1.5" Hard drive
nVidia graphics
2 GB memory
Ethernet port
Audio I/O

Multi-touch interface.

I've been saying this for 2 years. and that's probably about how long Apple's been working on it if not longer.

I think you're close, but the hard drive seems improbable.

Give me a Mac tablet with a full XGA display, video out, full support for iWork, 3G connectivity optional, for under $800, and I'm in.
 
Apple, make it like this (first picture):

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games…
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/next-apple-moves-will-be-books-and-games

With the full and genuine and complete Mac OS X inside (not the limited OS X).

With VGA-out port for full-blown Keynote and PowerPoint presentations (wired).

With Firewire port for repairs via Target Disk Mode.

With true Ethernet port.

With at least two USB2 ports.

Less than 500 g. The lighter and smallar, the better. 100 to 200 g would be awesome.

Hint: check out OQO model 2+ for s light and small full computer:
http://www.oqo.com

Whatever the price, we need thousands for our University. We do not need to work on it. We just need it for the full blown presentations (made on Mac, then saved to the Mac iTablet).
 
whitebook circa the past three years, very fair deal, even right now if you take into account os x tool.

I would consider that a very fair deal as well.
However, I suspect a LOT of PC users would consider that a total rip off.

I consider iWork to be an absolute STEAL, but when I wrote product I meant hardware.
 
It CAN, but you have to factor in the internal function, development costs, distributors, lawyers, guy that serves coffee costs, etc etc etc. The price will be dependent on the internal function too.

Who offers a 10" multi-touch screen at this time, though? I wouldn't expect it to be something inexpensive to make or make function at this time. Maybe in 3 years it will be cheaper.

Apple--never expect low prices, never.

Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so low you felt you were robbing them blind.
Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so fair you felt gratified by good deal.
Name one time Apple released a product that you did a back flip over because the price was so unexpectedly high but you HAD to buy the device because it was time saving, innovative, shiny, lovely, and sexy.

So what do you think we'll see? It won't be more than a MB. It would eat too much of those sales. <$999. It has to be more than the 32gb iPod Touch. >$399. I think $700-$850 is the most reasonable suggestion.
 
If they don't price it into the stratosphere, I will definitely buy one. :D

Shortly thereafter, I will conduct a small, quiet retirement ceremony for my trusty little 12" Powerbook. :( Taps will be played.

You and me both. My iBook may officially enter his retirement phase. Rather. Assisted living. If he's dependent. Does that mean he'll just be in partial retirement? Like Billy Joel? :confused: iLove iBook.

I say that this is the perfect opportunity - why bother with new confusing names?
Their computer lines all start with Mac, excluding iMac: Mac Mini, Mac Pro, MacBook...
The sort of accessory devices start with that "i": iPod, iPhone...
If this is indeed what I think it is, go with the "i", and reuse the name iBook.

iMac > MacBook > iBook - It just works. :)
 
Translation: true or not, this confirms the failure of the MacBook Air.

Remember launch day? When I said, "Cube 2.0," everyone thought I was crazy. :rolleyes:

Cheap, small laptops are where it's at... especially with the weakening economy.

-Clive
 
Apple, make it like this (first picture):

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games…
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/next-apple-moves-will-be-books-and-games

With the full and genuine and complete Mac OS X inside (not the limited OS X).

With VGA-out port for full-blown Keynote and PowerPoint presentations (wired).

With Firewire port for repairs via Target Disk Mode.

With true Ethernet port.

With at least two USB2 ports.

Too many ports.

Will have the 2 USB ports. You can use the USB -> Ethernet adapter from Apple.

No VGA - too restrictive. Will have MiniDisplay Port instead to hook it up to VGA, HDMI, or DVI.

No FW - like the Aluminum MacBook.
 
Apple isn't going to release a sub-$500 netbook--not without requiring a 2 year, $30-$60/month contract. Anyone with hopes that they'll allow free 3G tethering for the device is more naive than I thought.

Where is this assumption coming from that this thing will require 3 (or 4) G?
I don't think this is going to be a big honkin' iPhone. It will be a big honkin' touch.
 
So what do you think we'll see? It won't be more than a MB. It would eat too much of those sales. <$999. It has to be more than the 32gb iPod Touch. >$399. I think $700-$850 is the most reasonable suggestion.

I think they can split the device in two ways, and who knows--maybe they will have two versions of this thing, but I doubt it.

• Super iPT -- just an iPT/iPhone with some expanded capability for browsing and data entry as well as better connectivity between Macs and the tablet. Small drive, few ports, limited OSX. I would expect this to be well under $1000. $799 maybe.

• Trim notebook tablet -- like an iPT maxi, but more function like a limited air without a keyboard. Drives 64gb and more. This would be above $1000.

I just am not sure of where Apple is aiming a 10" device. Like many have said in this thread--a large iPT would be an utter joke. So, this has to expand all capabilities, which also is good business to allow greater sales of apps. However, it makes the computer more and more expensive.

Who can tell what they will really do, though? If this is merely a slightly hyper iPT I would not be interested, but there might be a big market for something like that. But, that market wants something under $600 and I doubt Apple could hit that mark with a 10" iPT.
 
Sony just came out with a new netbook. I think the price for that is $1000 USD. Hard for me to believe that this would be any less than that.
 
airplane use

Add a usb keyboard and a simple hinged attachment to connect this to the back of a airplane seat and I am sold.
 
I have a 17" MBP and I can type on it while holding it with one hand, but it is pretty awkward. It's a shame we see in the vertical plane and use or hands in more of a horizontal plane. Having the screen & keyboard on the same plane will be tough. I really hope it comes w/ a stylus. that might make it easier to write with. If it's a tablet, I also hope it comes with camera on both the front & back. That way, I can do videos w/ it and hopefully someone will create a barcode scanning feature to it. There's a program I'm used a little called Books (books.aetherial.net) that lets you show the book's ISBN barcode to your iSight & it scans it. Pretty cool.

right on the money with this one, what makes a big difference are the different planes to write and read, if you put the on the same plane it changes things a lot. I am now lying on my bed posting this, legs upside v shape and holding lappy between kness/thighs and legs and belly, sure its not the most ergonomic thing but I bet a lot of lappie users use it or the more frequent upright with back against something variation. Bottom line is that I can hold the laptop look straight ahead and write on another plane, combine these into one plane and you get a great, portable, easy to move READING scenario but a very hard writing one, which fits great for a netbook type mainly reading -in a broad sense- device, but anything that involves writing...forget about it...it should be minimal, nor forum sentence after sentence post. I just won't work, slide keyboard or not.

That's why apple will not use and havent used a slide out keyboard because writing same plane is **** with or with keys, the keys don't give you much of an added edge -it just hit me too- that's the reason- unless you put them on a different plane, i you are to look and write on the same plane effectively then by far the most effective way would be the traditional writing stylus -not that apple will use one, but hypothetically- because that is the least distracting, if you keep hitting them keys or virtual keys you got to have them on another plane
 
seeing as i just bought a brand new (return item, no box) MB 2.4ghz out the door (best buy) for just above 1000, throwing out another G or more for a apple tablet/netbook seems senseless. My Asus netbook is used exactly what it was made for: surfing the web, checking e-mail. I don't need to spend an absurd amount of money on an overpriced netbook made by Apple just because it's an Apple.



Yet, I'm not as much a fanboy as a lot of people on these forums are.
 
• Super iPT -- just an iPT/iPhone with some expanded capability for browsing and data entry as well as better connectivity between Macs and the tablet. Small drive, few ports, limited OSX. I would expect this to be well under $1000. $799 maybe.
I think your second direction makes more sense. At least I did until I thought about it again. So I highlighted this option. With Apple moving iWork and some of iLife to the "cloud," I can imagine an overgrown/overspec'd iPT with hooks into both the/an App Store as well as beefed up specs to take advantage of Apple's move to the cloud(s).

Either way, I can imagine Apple's flirtation with cloud-based computing is an important aspect of this project.
 
i understand why the average person wants a netbook. they only use a computer for the most basic things. i don't understand why anybody on this forum would want one.

Simple.... for 99% of what I use the computer for outside of work, this would fit the bill just fine. If I need to do more, that's what the laptop or desktop unit is for.
Thinking really, hard, and the only thing I need much local processing power for is some automation scripting in perl or shell, and even for most of that I can ssh to a unix box. And by any definition, I'm in a very technical position.

At home, the only thing I'd like good local processing ability for is music applications (midi, sequencing, etc.) And if this thing could run even a light version of iLife (including GarageBand), I'd be in hog heaven.
 
Tablet sound better?

@ $900, it's too much. For that price, I'd expect a 2.4 C2D, 200gb HD + all the extras. I'd think in the range of $600 is the sweet spot. If they do that iMac dock idea, then add $1.5k to the price.

Really? An iMac dock that apparently takes up about 20-25 square inches of iMac interior space, not counting the actual dock connection? Not likely.
 
Thought I'd add this:

So what would a 10" touch screen cost to produce? $50? Fine. Sell it for $150. A 10" tablet can still cost in the $600 - $800 range.

that is possible though i seriously doubt the screen costs $150. 3x the screen does not equal 3x the price. the touchsmart tx2 costs $999 and that's with an amd processor and no apple tax. a year from now (when it will probably be released) prices could come down enough where it would be around that price.
 
Add me to the list of those who ALREADY own a Mac netbook - which actually spends half it's time as an Acer Aspire One running XP. I paid $275 for it back in December and had it running OSX 10.5 in a few hours.

Anybody who thinks a) it can't be done, and b) isn't a capable machine is fooling themselves. I take notes in class on mine using XP, and when I get home use it to work on iPhone projects. It feels no different to use than my Mac Mini, which I rarely turn on anymore.

Also, I've been asked more than once if it was a new MacBook (I picked a white one). It's actually easy to make that mistake, cause other than the acer logo, it looks like what Apple might have made themselves.
 
I think they can split the device in two ways, and who knows--maybe they will have two versions of this thing, but I doubt it.

• Super iPT -- just an iPT/iPhone with some expanded capability for browsing and data entry as well as better connectivity between Macs and the tablet. Small drive, few ports, limited OSX. I would expect this to be well under $1000. $799 maybe.

• Trim notebook tablet -- like an iPT maxi, but more function like a limited air without a keyboard. Drives 64gb and more. This would be above $1000.

I just am not sure of where Apple is aiming a 10" device. Like many have said in this thread--a large iPT would be an utter joke. So, this has to expand all capabilities, which also is good business to allow greater sales of apps. However, it makes the computer more and more expensive.

Who can tell what they will really do, though? If this is merely a slightly hyper iPT I would not be interested, but there might be a big market for something like that. But, that market wants something under $600 and I doubt Apple could hit that mark with a 10" iPT.

Here's what I'm thinking we'll end up with.

Take an iPod Touch, Pinch it to make it 10". Add a slightly different version of OSX. One that will run desktop apps (iWork/iLife) + AppStore Apps. Also, throw in 1 USB + 1 MDP + BlueTooth. Use an Ion Processor and make it dockable.

Maybe we are thinking of two different devices? I'm hoping for one that is simply an extension of a desktop. Are you thinking of a Stand Alone computer? Something more like a MB?
 
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