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No kidding.

I wonder how big the file will be?

Current movies on iTunes are around 1.2 to 1.4 GBs.

For 720p with 5.1 audio files should start at about 3 GB, for 1080p with 5.1 audio look at files starting at about 6 or 7 GB. This is using XBL Video Marketplace as my basis. Filesizes between VC-1 and H.264 are pretty similar.
 
If the new rentals offer at least DVD quality I would immediately cancel my Blockbuster online account and purchase the new Apple TV (assuming there is one). Even without a new Apple TV there will surely be a software update for existing models.

HD would be icing on the cake and would really make this the ultimate content solution for my home theater.
 
I am a bit old fashioned. I like my physical discs. And any movie worth buying for me, is one that I would watch more than once. What I would like to see is the ability to put my DVDs onto itunes just like my CDs. But I suppose this is a moot point for me as I am not in the US.:rolleyes:
 
For 720p with 5.1 audio files should start at about 3 GB, for 1080p with 5.1 audio look at files starting at about 6 or 7 GB. This is using XBL Video Marketplace as my basis. Filesizes between VC-1 and H.264 are pretty similar.
Thanks.

So to DL a 1080p movie that is 7GB in size, with at say 3.5MBps DL (about average for a 50Mbps ADSL line around here) it would take about 4.5 hours to DL the movie.

Definitely need more bandwidth!
 
1080p would be nice for those of us with either Aluminum iMacs or HD CInema Displays (and HD graphics cards).
:apple:

I'm pretty sure that you're going to need a display larger than 23, 24, or even 30 inches in order to discern the difference between a video that's 720p versus 1080p. I know I would have to and I have better than 20/20. I don't think this becomes an issue on any display less than 50 inches or so.

I am a bit old fashioned. I like my physical discs. And any movie worth buying for me, is one that I would watch more than once. What I would like to see is the ability to put my DVDs onto itunes just like my CDs. But I suppose this is a moot point for me as I am not in the US.:rolleyes:

You have that ability today. It's called MacTheRipper and Handbrake. No, they're not as seamless as iTunes's method for archiving your CDs, but here in the States there is questionable legality concerning archiving DVD material to a hard drive (or another DVD). Apple, being judicious, probably doesn't want to muck up their tenuous relationships in Hollywood by making that type of archiving too easy for consumers. So we have very good third-party options at this point. It's a convoluted and dicey legal atmosphere and I couldn't do it justice here. Google macrovision and dig around some. Ars Technica is a good place to look, as is eff.org... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060816-7517.html
 
You have that ability today. It's called MacTheRipper and Handbrake. No, they're not as seamless as iTunes's method for archiving your CDs, but here in the States there is questionable legality concerning archiving DVD material to a hard drive (or another DVD). Apple, being judicious, probably doesn't want to muck up their tenuous relationships in Hollywood by making that type of archiving too easy for consumers. So we have very good third-party options at this point. It's a convoluted and dicey legal atmosphere and I couldn't do it justice here. Google macrovision and dig around some. Ars Technica is a good place to look, as is eff.org... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060816-7517.html[/QUOTE]

Thanks GL, will try.
 
They kind of did.

When it first became possible to record movies on videotape and especially when rental started in earnest, the movie studios all tried to stop it. They lobbied to make it illegal to record a TV show and took it all the way to the Supreme Court in the US. Fortunately, they lost. They also set the price of early digital recordings like LaserDisc at hundreds of dollars (per disc!), in order to "pay for the lost cost of copying" and similarly tried to levy fees against videotape recorders and blank tape for the same reason. They lost that deal too.

Unfortunately, today's world is severely tilted against even the *minimal* rights the consumer had back then and leans much more towards the rights of the corporations than it does the rights of the individual. So in today's world they have actually won some of these fights. For instance, most people are under the mistaken impression that any copying is illegal now (it's not), and the corporations have actually been successful in levying fees against digital players and media to make up for this mythical "lost income."

In any case, I would not rejoice over this news until we see the price they are going to charge for the privilege of watching media in this new system.

i remember the day of the $200 VHS tape. The $20 copy didn't hit a store until well after a year from the time it first hit video, which was normally around 2 years after it hit theaters. It wasn't like today where a theatrical release finds its way on DVD 3 months later. Look how Stupid the media companies are! They make more money selling DVD's than they do on a film in the theatre most of the time, and that WAS something they fought to stop in the VHS era. They never learn!!!! (Ahem, Uniververal NBC).

I googled the Vudu box, which sounds quite nice except for the $399 price to own the box, and you still have to pay for the movies you rent! I wonder if AppleTV doesn't have some hidden technology in it that might not function like the Vudu box. Apple has been good at doing that latelye (the N enbaling, dual binary osx all these years).

If it it a matter of waiting hours for a download, that kind of sucks. You might as well just do netflix and not worry about the image and sound quality, IMO.
 
I am a bit old fashioned. I like my physical discs. And any movie worth buying for me, is one that I would watch more than once. What I would like to see is the ability to put my DVDs onto itunes just like my CDs. But I suppose this is a moot point for me as I am not in the US.:rolleyes:

I can agree with you, but only if, as i said before, you can rip an entire disc image of the DVD so that it has the menus, movie, and special features so that the file plays just as if you had a DVD in your computer. I want that so bad, and I really really hope soon that we will be able to download "Digital DVDs" like that :)
 
I guess this announcement, if it proves to be true, will take up the bulk of the keynote at MacWorld.
 
I guess this announcement, if it proves to be true, will take up the bulk of the keynote at MacWorld.

I don't know, this is a very interesting moment for Apple enthusiasts. We have a lot of real solid things going on; rentals, iPhone hardware and software updates, new aluminum Macbook, Apple TV, and maybe even new Mac Pros and Cinema Displays. That's a lot of real possibilities going into a major event. For me I am most interested in the rentals, Apple TV, and iPhone updates.
 
I can agree with you, but only if, as i said before, you can rip an entire disc image of the DVD so that it has the menus, movie, and special features so that the file plays just as if you had a DVD in your computer. I want that so bad, and I really really hope soon that we will be able to download "Digital DVDs" like that :)

VOB files FTW!!!! OTherwise I am not sure how one would embed menus in MP4 container. Although the container supports 1 Video stream, 2 Audio streams, and a subtitle stream. It would be cool if they could do a h.264 VOB format. Maybe they could use the same container HD DVD & BD use.
 
In combination with the other rumors of a significant update to the AppleTV, this would sound interesting.

I hope they are not planning on much for the convenience tax.

I would not be saving that much in Gas and wear an tear on my vehicle as I can easily pick a DVD from the rental place on my way home from work.

If the convenience tax is too much, ill just continue the old "stop at the store" on the may home routine.
 
I guess this announcement, if it proves to be true, will take up the bulk of the keynote at MacWorld.

ummm, "One more thing, we have decided to add video rentals to iTunes, the movies will be fully DVD quality with 5.1 stereo, from 4 studios. Available today."

Add the time to present each studio, 3 min of video, 5 min to show new Apple TV using the service.

I say this is more like a 15 to 20 minutes announcement with all the proper fanfare.

Not that hot to take the entire presentation.
 
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