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More Video iPod Reports - Now with Bluetooth?

freeny said:
Come on now! Leave the newbies alone! We were all newbies at one time and very excited about being part of this community. Try not to get pissed until they become a frequent offender. Then ream them a new one!;)
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It wouldn't be a big deal if an individual would actually add something to the thread, rather than simply clog it up by announcing to everyone how close to the top their post came.

Two things: first, I don't believe the 1.8" 100 GB HDD exists yet; and second, how will an added bluetooth radio effect the battery life? Adding bluetooth almost seems like a foregone conclusion because it would be so slick and doesn't cost much to integrate.

A larger point is whether Apple will respond to what appears to be a concerted effort from MS to cut into iPod sales with the Origami project. I don't really see the two as comparable at this point, but it seems like Origami is targeted at the iPod and will eventually improve (if not, it's stillborn).
 
This could all be total BS for all we know.

^^
Note to newbies;

There is no reward for being first, but you get a free tee shirt if you are the 27th poster!
 
I've been waiting a long time for decent streaming music over bluetooth. the possiblities are huge. battery power is needed in the headphones... wonder how they will do that? I hope this expands to syncing over bluetooth and the ability to stream music and video over bluetooth from the computer to receivers/tv etc. taking over the overpriced airtunes.
 
freeny said:
Come on now! Leave the newbies alone! We were all newbies at one time and very excited about being part of this community. Try not to get pissed until they become a frequent offender. Then ream them a new one!;)
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sorry if i was unclear, but i was referring to newbies because they were the one's doing that in this thread. If you did that i would report you. If anyone did i would too. Just something i hate. I remember when i was a newbie. hated those days.;)
 
making the iPod more of a "resource"

I think the key to the iPod moving forward is to act more like a Pod... Just think of all of the add ons you can use with your iPod today... now imagine that there was Bluetooth in there... and now you have a way to add even MORE "extensions". It might still be cost prohibitive, but if they do make a touchscreen iPod then you have more of an extensible "mini" computer that can be a phone, a portable hard drive... etc.

We'll see...
 
yankeefan24 said:
sorry if i was unclear, but i was referring to newbies because they were the one's doing that in this thread. If you did that i would report you. If anyone did i would too. Just something i hate. I remember when i was a newbie. hated those days.;)
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Too many virtual wedgies?:D

Sorry to be off the subject but,
Where in NYC are you yankeefan24?
 
bluetooth headphones don't really seem like a big deal...I think if bluetooth does get added, Apple will push it as a cool way to control frontrow. But #1 on the list of things needed for any new ipod is going to be battery life. if they just made the vpod/new ipod video a little thicker, they could increase the size of the battery or even just add a second one...they really aren't that big.
 
bigbossbmb said:
But #1 on the list of things needed for any new ipod is going to be battery life. if they just made the vpod/new ipod video a little thicker, they could increase the size of the battery or even just add a second one...they really aren't that big.
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I wouldnt be surprised if they return to the same thickness as the original iPod. They have always kept the docks at the same size and included adapters with new generations.

Batteries have progressd quite a bit since the early pod days. A new battery in the old 1g housing could pack a good punch with video. at least a full length movie.
 
dongmin said:
So no Mac Books? :( All these rumors are pointing to some sort of handheld device: vpod, iphone, 'communication device'--take your pick. Common Steve, give your computers some love. Give us a killer new Mac Book. The current design is way too old (6,7 years?).
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If you're referring to the iBook, it's white plastic design is 5 years now.
 
The Bluetooth thing seems off. Apple already went with infrared for their remote control choice, and even the latest stereo bluetooth headsets are big unwieldy beasts when compared with simple earbuds.

In any event, the oft-quoted Shaw Wu is far from infallible (widescreen iBook for August 2005 etc.).
 
My prediction is a new form factor for the vPod. It will have a bluetooth radio, but it will NOT come with bluetooth headphones. This way, you will be able to sync wirelessly, other manufacturers can make BT headphones, apple doesn't have to lower the battery life, and it'll save them money while getting publicity for having BT in an iPod.

This won't be the end of it though. the screen will be a touch screen, so you can use the BT radio to surf the net on your iPod, control Front Row, etc. This is Apple's way of breaking into the tablet market!

think iPod design -> iMac design
vPod design -> iTablet design

P.S. If it is possible to surf the web on the vPod, couldn't apple in theory add a dashboard layer and we could all use dashboard with our vPods?
 
That dude from AmTech that makes all these "analyses" and "predictions" gets all his stuff purely from rumor sites. Appleinsider had the story up on Friday and he releases this report yesterday. Give me a break. This is what he said for the last event..."Despite his predictions, Wu is sure to point out that Apple chief executive Steve Jobs could have some unanticipated surprises tucked up the sleeve of his black turtleneck and "may make an announcement that no one anticipated."

He was right...iPod leather cases.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
My prediction is a new form factor for the vPod. It will have a bluetooth radio, but it will NOT come with bluetooth headphones. This way, you will be able to sync wirelessly, other manufacturers can make BT headphones, apple doesn't have to lower the battery life, and it'll save them money while getting publicity for having BT in an iPod.

This won't be the end of it though. the screen will be a touch screen, so you can use the BT radio to surf the net on your iPod, control Front Row, etc. This is Apple's way of breaking into the tablet market!

think iPod design -> iMac design
vPod design -> iTablet design

P.S. If it is possible to surf the web on the vPod, couldn't apple in theory add a dashboard layer and we could all use dashboard with our vPods?
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I think that's too radical. If you look at each generation of the ipod, none have had huge sweeping changes based on the model before them. A BT radio, internet access, front row, it just seems like too much. I think there'll be one wow factor, and everything else will only be slightly modified.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
My prediction is a new form factor for the vPod. It will have a bluetooth radio, but it will NOT come with bluetooth headphones. This way, you will be able to sync wirelessly, other manufacturers can make BT headphones, apple doesn't have to lower the battery life, and it'll save them money while getting publicity for having BT in an iPod.
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I agree. I would love to have a pair of bluetooth headphones, but I would rather that Apple continue to bundle cheap and cheerful wired headphones with the iPod so that I can go out and choose my own bluetooth headphones rather than being forced to pay for whatever Apple chooses to bundle with the iPod. I can see this opening up a whole new segment of the accessories market, as various third party manufacturers scramble to get their own range of bluetooth headphones out there.

As it happens, a friend of mine runs a technology web site and has asked me to review a pair of bluetooth headphones which I will be going to pick up when I meet him for coffee this afternoon. I will be very interested to see how they perform, but most reviews that I've read suggest that the sound quality on bluetooth headphones is not nearly as good as wired headphones. Hopefully, Apple will implement EDR (extended data rate) technology when they add bluetooth functionality to the iPod, as this should resolve the sound quality issue.
 
The SNL skit of the iPod getting replaced every second its looking to be true. I just got my 5g in late december thinking it would be current from any major updates, but i guess not.
 
they have and probably will continue to update the ipod every 6 months. automobiles are updated once a year. computers are updated faster then we can get them out of the store. its just how things go.
 
Am I The Only One ?

I feel like the only person here who is less and less excited about this with each new story. The whole idea of a touch screen wheel baffled me, now bluetooth headphones ? What are they smoking in Cupertino? Anybody remember the 20th Anniversary Macintosh? A super stylish, futuristic looking Mac made for the 20th Anniversary of Apple. And it bombed because it was way too expensive for it's time.

I'm afraid that they have learned nothing. If they build this ultimate iPod and put everything and the kitchen sink into it battery life is going to be HORRIBLE. A widescreen color LCD, a 60 (or 80GB) HDD, and now a bluetooth module are going to suck the life out of an iPod battery. Plus add batteries for the headphones themselves and this just doesn't seem like a very Apple idea. Not to mention its going to cost a fortune. There is no way in hell Apple can build and sell this vPod for 399. Maybe not even 499.

I'm still leaning towards a 60GB 5G, which is the one I'll probably end up getting. And I'll definitely give Apple the chance to prove me wrong, but so far this vPod has the makings of a train-wreck to me.

* - These are just my thoughts, counterpoints are welcome, flames are not.
 
I'm excited to see what this product is, but I have no intention of buying it (80GB will be way too much space for me, I prefer a music with video capabilities to a video with music capabilities ipod, I could buy a refurb. mini mac for the price this would probably cost, etc). But it's still exciting. Though I'd be disappointed if it was touchscreen.
 
freeny said:
Sorry to be off the subject but,
Where in NYC are you yankeefan24?
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why do you want to know? is manhattan good enough for you? or do you want more?

to keep this thread near topic:

dmcgann said:
All i want is an ipod with safari!!
Any chance??
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doubt it. but possible later. probably not this model though.
 
dmcgann said:
All i want is an ipod with safari!!
Any chance??
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I like your idea. I also think Apple shouldn't waste time with bluetooth but should integrate WiFi, as it would allow access to ITMS (M for Movie Store) :) from anywhere at anytime, receive airport/express streams, and with safari it would definitely put to shame the lame browser Sony's PSP has. :cool:
 
mox358 said:
I'm afraid that they have learned nothing. If they build this ultimate iPod and put everything and the kitchen sink into it battery life is going to be HORRIBLE. A widescreen color LCD, a 60 (or 80GB) HDD, and now a bluetooth module are going to suck the life out of an iPod battery. Plus add batteries for the headphones themselves and this just doesn't seem like a very Apple idea. Not to mention its going to cost a fortune. There is no way in hell Apple can build and sell this vPod for 399. Maybe not even 499.
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I have no idea about the price but I can assure you they won't announce a movie playing product that has a battery life less than the average length of a movie. so I'm guessing 4-6 hours? I wouldn't need anything longer. to me though bluetooth adds wild new possibilities if the clarity is developed. screw the iTrip and screw the USB sync. bluetooth connections with multiple headphones, stereo receiver, computer, car stereo... all at once even! technology does exist where you can contol sending multiple songs to different receivers at once. that would be really cool. maybe thats more of a function for the new mac mini though.
 
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