Most compatible web video

kjdenison

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Which format is the most compatible for the most users. I don't want anyone to have to download a plug-in to view the videos. Currently I compressed the videos in h.264, should I do wmv? The link is http://www.yspeakforyourself.com I am having some people say they can't view the videos, and the site is dependent on them. I appreciate any help!

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Darwin

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I would say having the videos in Flash (FLV)

After all a majority of broswers will have the Flash Plug-in installed and it would play on both Mac and Windows without a problem. Hey it worked for Google and YouTube
 

RacerX

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kjdenison said:
Currently I compressed the videos in h.264...
Why? MPEG4 (Quicktime 6 and later) or Sorrenson Video 3 (Quicktime 5 and later) are much better codec choices than h.264 (which is Quicktime 7 only) when putting stuff up on the web.
 

kjdenison

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RacerX said:
Why? MPEG4 (Quicktime 6 and later) or Sorrenson Video 3 (Quicktime 5 and later) are much better codec choices than h.264 (which is Quicktime 7 only) when putting stuff up on the web.
Thanks, I had no idea what codec to use. I tried .flv as well, but people were having issues with that. I am going to give MPEG4 a shot. When I compress into mp4, should I select h.264, MPEG 4 Improved, or MPEG 4 Basic?
 

theappleguy

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Flash would be the most compatible because as someone said above, pretty much everyone has flash installed. Why don't you offer the video in H.264 and WMV formats so all of your visitors are happy. :)
 

kjdenison

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theappleguy said:
Flash would be the most compatible because as someone said above, pretty much everyone has flash installed. Why don't you offer the video in H.264 and WMV formats so all of your visitors are happy. :)
The video will automatically be playing when the visitor gets to the site. I would normally offer a couple formats, but in this case I am unable to.
 

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kjdenison said:
Thanks, I had no idea what codec to use. I tried .flv as well, but people were having issues with that. I am going to give MPEG4 a shot. When I compress into mp4, should I select h.264, MPEG 4 Improved, or MPEG 4 Basic?
Actually what I was thinking was that you would output as a .mov using MPEG-4 Video (also sometimes listed as Apple MPEG4 Compressor as the compression type). The h.264 is too new for some people and they would need to update to watch it (when it comes to movies, flash and pdf files I tend to keep my compatibility one or two versions back from the most current... you can reach a much wider audience that way).

Yes, more people would be able to see a .mp4 file, but I'm not totally sure about how well it imbeds within a page.
 

kjdenison

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the .mp4 looks a lot better than the mpeg4, and fits fine. I used h.264 as the codec for the .mp4, is this still going to cause the same problem then?
 

RacerX

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I just checked your site using Quicktime 6.5 and it seems to be displaying video now (it wasn't the first time I went there). And 6.5 has been out for a pretty long time so that should be a pretty safe version to be compatible with.
 

RacerX

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Well, the one that worked was using MPEG-4 Video which is a codec that has been included in QuickTime since the release of version 6 (November of 2002) and the one that doesn't was using H.264 which is only part of QuickTime 7 (and was first released in January 2005).

Anyone without Quicktime 7 on their systems is not going to see your video if you use H.264.

The thing is, even though H.264 is based on MPEG-4, it is not MPEG-4... it is a derivative codec made by Apple.

Like I said, to reach the largest audience you shouldn't use the cutting edge file formats. You should aim back a ways, and supporting QuickTime 6 is a good way to do this.

Also, you don't need television frame rates for web video. Your movies are at 28.22 FPS (broadcast television is 29.97 FPS). Taking the frame rate down will let you increase the picture quality while keeping the file size small. Feature films run at 20-24 FPS... I've found that between 15 to 20 FPS works fine on the web and doesn't overly tax older systems.
 

kjdenison

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The videos are now in MPEG-4, but look pretty fuzzy. They need to be around 1-1.5MB in size so that the user is not waiting around for it to load, it needs to instantly play. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to up the quality (without using H.264) (Needs to be compatible with a broad audience) and keep the same file size. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

kjdenison

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CanadaRAM said:
Oi! Some of your clients with dialup and budget broadband will dispute the "instant" aspect of a 1 Mb video...
I know, but I have to keep the quality at least viewable. Most of the target market will have broadband as well. What do you suggest?