Motorola,Lg,Samsung,Htc are greedy

Discussion in 'iPad' started by yodaxl7, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. yodaxl7 macrumors 6502a

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    At least Apple spent research and development for its os and hardware. Honeycomb is free. No cost to them! Yet they are charging a lot for their tablets!
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

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    Totally greedy, I mean they get their display panels for free as with the other components. They don't pay google fees for the marketplace, nor do they pay developers to customize android for their device and they don't use any R&D to design their tablets. :rolleyes:
     
  3. ditzy macrumors 68000

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    This isn't actually true. Apple actually made the iPad at a reasonable price. However people expect Apple products to be more expensive than its competitors, so everything else seems more expensive when it isn't cheaper than the Apple product.
     
  4. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Listen son, go study up on supply chains and economies of scale and get back to us. Without an understanding of those, you can't possible comment on their prices.
     
  5. yodaxl7 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Guess you don't understand my point. Microsoft sells it operating software to manufacturers. Google allows manufacturers to use android free. Apple invested as much or similar to that of Microsoft. Motorola, as an example, don't have a start cost like Apple would. It is like a generic company building upon a brand company's success. Generic company compete with specs on hardware and hopes competing software os is competitive. Motorola is competitive with phones and hope to make money on volume and is not confident in tablet sales. Similar situation except low subsidy or cannot afford to sell it less. Maybe these companies should focus on features like striking better deals with telcos or create cooler accessories like Hp did. Just on raw materials Xoom costs 50 dollar more than iPad 1. So, roughly where does 500 dollar go? How much is profit?
     
  6. poloponies macrumors 68030

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    Not to try to start a debate on this but Apple has economies that the others can't reach. They make a very high margin off their internal sales (online or through Apple retail stores), less so through Best Buy or WalMart. The others sell primarily through 3rd parties, so even if their manufacturing costs were identical they couldn't afford to sell at Apple's pricing structure.
     
  7. tekker macrumors regular

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    Motorola is greedy. Charging $200 more for 3G/4G? Really?

    However, the fact is that not every company gets the parts for their tablets as cheap as Apple seems to be getting them, which is usually the reason why the prices are jacked up.
     
  8. hcho3 macrumors 68030

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    No Cost? How do you know that Google is giving away honeycomb for free?
    They are probably licensing their OS to their manufacturers.

    Apple is the one who made tablet at a reasonable price. It's cheaper because they have apple stores to distribute from. Others? They do it thru 3rd party retailers. Those retailers are taking money, so tablet prices go up.
     
  9. maflynn Moderator

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    Technically, android is free, its open source. Google does charge for the marketplace and in a sense. That's how they control manufacturers from making any material changes to android. You muck too much with the innards with android. You lose the ability to have the marketplace The same can be said with the google apps.

    So while the OS is free, the android platform is not and it does cost HTC, Motorola $$ to use android.
     
  10. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Yes, Google allows manufacturers to use Android free. (MS charged about $8-15 per device for WinMo.) However...

    Just porting it takes time and money. Any customization adds to that.

    To be able to say their device is using Android version X.Y, it must pass the standard X.Y compatibility tests. This ensures that an X.Y compatibile app will run on all such devices. That takes time.

    For their device to access the Android Market, the company must belong to the OHA (Open Handset Alliance). This costs.

    To include Google Apps, I believe they have to make a deal with Google.

    Apple puts the least percentage of its revenues into R&D of all major software firms. They say they like running like a startup (code words for: hire as few people as possible and make them wear multiple dev hats).
     

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